Doctor Who: The Pandorica Opens

Jun 19, 2010 19:31

I WAS NOT EXPECTING THIS!

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parthenia14 June 19 2010, 18:41:36 UTC
About half-way through, little E. turned to me and said, it'll be the other Doctor (who comes out of the Pandorica). Given she seems to have very little clue as to the plotline, this seemed strangely prescient.

Amy. It's still all about Amy.

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infinitemonkeys June 19 2010, 18:44:26 UTC
I love that I still have no clue what's going on. Please let it all click together logically next week and I will be a very pleased fanperson.

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parthenia14 June 19 2010, 18:54:44 UTC
Rewatching at the moment. Who's the Blue Man from 5145, in the preamble?

God, I am avoiding spoilers so very very much. All I can figure is that he goes back in time to fix things, and they must go back to Leadworth, surely. I wish to see the no-ducks one more time.

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infinitemonkeys June 19 2010, 19:09:34 UTC
I don't know. I assumed that was a Star Wars cantina tribute. I wonder if there's more Leadworth to come, because why cast Annette Crosbie just to have her speak about ten lines? Doylishly, is that a clue?

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infinitemonkeys June 19 2010, 20:02:59 UTC
Maybe Moff is pulling a Castrovalva: "you made us man of evil, but we are free", making Leadworth the picture-postcard trap and that's why Amy doesn't remember -- all those people are in a sub-universe and the people Jeff talked to online are facsimiles.

Only if the Leadworthians placed in the trap have free will, as Auton!Rory did, the Doctor can use them to foil the plan. "Time can be rewritten".

If time is rewritten, Amy lives, maybe Rory is only her friend in the new universe and the Amy we've got to know is dead. Next season's Amy is the same, but different.

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tzikeh June 19 2010, 19:01:53 UTC
Okay, fill me in? What other doctor?

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parthenia14 June 19 2010, 19:13:30 UTC
The theory of the doctor in the Tardis and the doctor not in the Tardis; the doctor in the jacket who goes back in time (we think) to comfort Amy in the forest of the Weeping Angels and tells her she has to remember.

So I think he gets out of the Pandorica (somehow) and at some point in the next ep goes back to Amy's house to discover the big thing that Amy's forgotten, and then goes to the Weeping Angel time, to try to get her to remember.

And maybe the burn marks in the grass are the crap Tardis which flew away last ep?. Or maybe they were Gallifreyan language?

I have it all sewn up, not. :D

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infinitemonkeys June 19 2010, 19:17:09 UTC
And there's that abandoned time machine from The Lodger. How excellent would it be if that were not a dangling plot thread but a whole THING?

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parthenia14 June 19 2010, 19:19:38 UTC
So we go back and look at the episodes which weren't referenced this time. Hah.

*is such a sad geek*

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infinitemonkeys June 19 2010, 19:21:59 UTC
*is such a sad geek* *Is pleasingly focused on the clue hunt*

FIXED!

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parthenia14 June 19 2010, 20:08:06 UTC
Stonehenge is also in Amy's book about the Romans in Britain...

River is still ahead of the Doctor, collecting all the clues. She goes back to the Byzantium after this, I think? 'I haven't yet but I will have' (told you I'd see you again) or words to that effect?

Which means River has still to kill the best man she ever knew. But, wait. She's in the Stormcage when she escapes, so it has already happened in her timeline, but it's yet to happen in our point of view.

The doctor in the Tardis doesn't know.

Gah! Which means Prisoner Zero, the Trickster with the alternate realities, and the person who wants to build a time machine. And Annette Crosbie. And Amy's aunt...dun dun dun... THE AUNT WE HAVE NEVER SEEN...

Er.

*cough*

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parthenia14 June 19 2010, 22:24:12 UTC
Mm. The blue man, in the Maldovarium: this didn't make sense but having Googles a bit, I think I've worked it out. River buys a Vortex Manipulator (as worn by the likes of Captain Jack, apparently), presumably to hop about in time. (Initially delivered on the wrist of a handsome Time Agent. Ewww.)

I wonder if that's how she'll get out of the Tardis/ travel without the Tardis.

They have to do a fair bit of running around next week, if I'm not mistaken.

Eeee!

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infinitemonkeys June 19 2010, 23:29:36 UTC
55 minutes worth of running around, apparently, but at least five minutes of it won't be the Tardis towing the fucking Earth while cast laughs self-indulgently or wanking about on beaches while people's heads are exploding WHY YES I AM STILL BITTER ABOUT JOURNEY'S END AND IT'S ONLY BEEN TWO YEARS.

Also I hope you're right about River because that would be a gun, placed in the first act, fired in the third, as opposed to Rusty, who LITERALLY pulled the gun from out of his/ Captain Jack's arse.

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