having a pro-choice president is such a welcome change!

[indigokare]

i am thrilled, ecstatic, etc etc etc! i am too excited to really type at the moment (it's 730am and i am dancing around my kitchen!). this is one of the things i hoped for most in obama's first week of president! FINALLY... a president who is pro-choice after eight long (and scary) years. now THIS is "change i can believe in

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It's me...

[jakpot7]

Wow, how extremely cold it is to say that it would have been fine to take my life as long as I didn't know it. This is where we are very, very different. I see life as such a treasure, even with all that I've been through, that it's never o.k. to take it, even if I would have never known the difference. It hurts my heart to know you feel that way.

I accept that you think I'm shortsighted for assuming that everyone born to parents that don't want them would want to live. I just find it ironic that you would say that, and yet there are such a vast number of us in this world that it's considered a social epidemic. You know, we haven't chosen to take our own lives in large numbers.

I've known many women, mom included, who have had abortions. I have yet to meet one who made her decision to do so because she was giving the child what it wanted, death rather than life with unwanting parents. And I assume you believe children in foster homes and up for adoption would really rather be euthanized?

I try to keep an open mind and understand, and I guess I do. The heart of this argument is that we see life completely different. And although I think you and I could befriend each other on numerous levels, I hope the life of others is something that is never placed in your hands.

Re: It's me...

[pigri]

be careful to not put words in my mouth. i did not say it was "fine" to "take your life" as long as you didn't know it. i asked you a question, whether or not you'd know the difference if you'd never been born. i didn't advocate a position on your life either way.

the irony here is not in what i said, but in what you said. you know nothing about me; i've never had an abortion, i myself was the result of an unplanned pregnancy, and i too am glad i am alive now. i just wouldn't know the difference otherwise, so it to me seems an emotional and irrational defense of a pro-life stance. see, i've also never been raped, physically abused, ectopically pregnant, poverty-striken, or pregnant without the resources to care for a child, and therefore i am unwilling to dictate to others the choice they must make when faced with such impossible pains and odds.

what's COLD and frankly unchristian is to say that you hope the life of others is never placed in my hands. i am a mother, am currently pregnant, and suffered 3 miscarriages in 4 years before having my son. you.don't.know.me. and you certainly don't know indigokare to be trolling in her journal looking for illogical debate.

Re: It's me...

[jakpot7]

Right, you didn't SAY it was fine, you just completely implied it. Nice way to back out of a poor comment. I don't need to know you to be able to see your point of view when you broadcast it so openly. If you and indigokare don't want people "trolling" your journal entries, don't make them public so that people like me see it on the front page of Live Journal and assume you want to engage in discussion. You obviously got really emotional over this and took it personally, so I won't continue to engage in a conversation with you and I apologize for any way I've offended you. I'm sure all you'll do from here is digress into more attacks on my faith, my politics, or whatever other label you can find to strike back rather than make a valid argument on the topic. But I hope that someday you will change your mind on how precious life is.

Re: It's me...

[pigri]

i never said ANYTHING was fine, for the second time, i asked you a question. it wasn't a poor comment just because you didn't like that their was a point to the question. i haven't "attack"ed you, your politics, or your faith in any way, nor am i "really emotional". you joined livejournal 2 days ago to what? purposely seek out people you don't know who disagree with you, and then accuse them of somehow attacking your faith? don't tell me i haven't made valid arguments because you disagree with my point of view, and don't tell me i don't know "how precious" life is because i define it differently.

Re: It's me...

[jakpot7]

Nah... that's not emotional at all. You're completely right. LOL!

Thanks for posting all that. I rest my case.