If I'm in no position to judge anyone, then neither are you, so it follows logically that you are in no position to judge me. So... take your own advice. If I don't know anything about them (and I beg to differ; what one posts in a journal can be pretty telling), then you know even LESS about me, because I don't have an online journal.
I hope you can explain to me how it's obvious that I have no relationship, because, well, I do. If you could go into the specifics of this, I'm sure it would make this whole exchange even more hilarious. Also: How am I being nosy/jealous (ha)/whiny?
Nosy? Meg and Nick put their relationship on the internet for all to read and comment on, as I've said numerous times. ANYONE can see it or comment on it. It's not like I hacked into something or overheard a conversation... they're both saying this in public and essentially asking for feedback.
Jealous? I've said before that I used to have a relationship similar to theirs (from what I can tell) and that *I* broke it off because it was unhealthy and restrictive.
Whiny? When have I whined?
So, let me get this straight... it's okay for them to say whatever they want, but I can't give a little advice because I've been there? Even funnier is the fact that you can throw unfounded insults at me (i.e: piece of shit with no life - you know nothing about my biological status OR my life) and that's completely fine, but I'm not allowed to say what I feel? That's a little bit hypocritical if you ask me.
If I have no business telling them what to do, then you have no business telling ME what to do.
By the way: I never told them that they couldn't say what they wanted to. I might've said that it was pointless and asked for a reason, but I never told them to stop saying what they wanted.
Wow do you have a lot of time on your hands. BOTTOM LINE - All you did was come onto someone else's livejournal to piss them off. And you did a good job. Too bad no one's coming on to defend YOU. Ya know why? Because you're 100 percent WRONG. And I'm sure they're not looking for feedback. They're just expressing themselves, and I feel bad for whoever the fuck you're with. You have absolutely no respect for anyone's personal lives. And wether or not they made it public, it's rude to come on and insult people because of it. And it's also, IMMATURE. My point has been made, it's been great arguing. Whether you're finished or not I am, so I'm not coming back on to this again. I hope you make some friends some day, see ya!
Giving up, hm? I always take that as a win, especially since you still haven't responded to any of my points.
Just in case you're still reading (and I bet you are; I know it's hard to step back from these):
How do you know my intentions? I didn't come on here to piss anyone off; I came on here to give advice. That's what the "comment" function on livejournal is for - COMMENTS.
Ya know why no one is coming on here to defend me? Because I don't need any defense. You've not answered any of my questions, just the same "you're a loser and immature", even though you can't give me a single example of this, nor can you show me where I've insulted anyone, where I've said that they can't say what they want, where I've done something to intentionally piss someone off, etc. None of my arguments have been refuted or have any proof against them, whereas all of YOUR arguments have zero proof or are based on shots to my character, which is a really bad method or argumentation.
As I've said over and over, if your personal life is in PUBLIC, then it is no longer personal - it's PUBLIC. If they don't want people to be able to read/respond to their choices in life, then keep it PERSONAL, not on the internet. It's the exact same way with celebrity gossip. Their lives are in the open, so people talk. Nick and Meg CHOSE to put their lives in the open, on a place where one of the basic features is the ability for ANYONE to comment on what they say. I DO have respect for personal lives, but this instance is not an example of this.
The only things I responded to are things that they CHOSE to make public. I didn't pry, I wasn't "nosy" (unless you're still looking for proof to give me on that one)... all of that was PUBLIC information.
Did I ever insult anyone? Please show me where. PLEASE. I would love to see this. I may have made a couple of small potshots, but I didn't say things NEARLY as bad as they have said to me or that you have said to me.
You HAD a point? If you did, it hasn't been made. They only thing you've done is make yourself look like a hypocrite, and show that your arguments are unfounded and weak. You still haven't given me ANY proof to support the insults you've slung at me or the claims you've made, which makes me think that there ISN'T any. So, it's a shame you're backing out. I really would've loved to see you try to give me some proof for any one of your arguments, but I guess you realised that there isn't any.
Hope you learn how to argue effectively someday. :)
Alright I lied, I did read it. But I'm done after this, it's getting ridiculous. I'll just answer your questions.
NUMBER ONE: "How do you know my intentions? I didn't come on here to piss anyone off; I came on here to give advice."
- Maybe you wanted to give advice, but you knew damn well that the things you wrote were going to hurt them, so yea, you did it intentionally.
NUMBER TWO: "Did I ever insult anyone? Please show me where. PLEASE."
- OKAY here ya go.
"it's obnoxious to see people who think they know what love really is."
"What you two have is obsession."
"It's not healthy"
"We don't have to keep online journals to post how much we love each other because we aren't insecure, immature"
(Yes those were insults, no one likes to be called those things.)
And if you're not a hypocryte, then why did you make a stupid assumption about Nick and Meg, (that they don't love each other), and then accused me of doing that to you?
NUMBER THREE: You HAD a point?
Yes I did, my point is, YOU are not going to stop their relationship from happening. Only they can do that, and they're going to follow their own hearts and not you're dumb advice.
Sometimes, the truth hurts. Sometimes, advice isn't what someone wants to hear. When people told me that my relationship was hurting me or that it was unhealthy, I didn't think that they were trying to hurt me, because that's not true. Maybe it DID hurt, but that was not their intention. Just because what I said might've hurt does not mean that I did it intentionally. That's just an unfortunate side affect of giving people advice sometimes.
Those aren't insults. An insult is saying "You are ______". So no, those aren't insults. Also, an insult is usually based on nothing. What I said were opinions. None of them were direct attacks on their characters, and if they were indirect, that's either due to overanalyzation or because my opinion was hurtful. Hurtful is not the same thing as an insult.
"And if you're not a hypocryte, then why did you make a stupid assumption about Nick and Meg, (that they don't love each other), and then accused me of doing that to you?"
I never said they didn't love each other, first off, so I didn't make that assumption. Second, wtf does what you said even MEAN? I pointed out that you were a hypocrite because you were telling me that I can't tell Nick and Meg what to do (which I never did in the first place, but thats' beside the point), but, in the same breath, you told ME what I could and could not do. THAT'S where the hypocrite comment came into play.
Did I ever say that I was going to stop their relationship? Did I ever say that was my point? No. I never said that they should break up. In fact, I speficially said that that was not what I was saying. So, I don't know where you're getting that information from.
I just think that certain people can't handle advice, beause they don't want advice; they want reassurance. Well, the world doesn't work that way, and sometimes what should be done isn't always the most fun thing. People have always come to me for advice and have always thanked me for it later. So, you're wrong on that one, too.
I hope you can explain to me how it's obvious that I have no relationship, because, well, I do. If you could go into the specifics of this, I'm sure it would make this whole exchange even more hilarious. Also: How am I being nosy/jealous (ha)/whiny?
Nosy? Meg and Nick put their relationship on the internet for all to read and comment on, as I've said numerous times. ANYONE can see it or comment on it. It's not like I hacked into something or overheard a conversation... they're both saying this in public and essentially asking for feedback.
Jealous? I've said before that I used to have a relationship similar to theirs (from what I can tell) and that *I* broke it off because it was unhealthy and restrictive.
Whiny? When have I whined?
So, let me get this straight... it's okay for them to say whatever they want, but I can't give a little advice because I've been there? Even funnier is the fact that you can throw unfounded insults at me (i.e: piece of shit with no life - you know nothing about my biological status OR my life) and that's completely fine, but I'm not allowed to say what I feel? That's a little bit hypocritical if you ask me.
If I have no business telling them what to do, then you have no business telling ME what to do.
By the way: I never told them that they couldn't say what they wanted to. I might've said that it was pointless and asked for a reason, but I never told them to stop saying what they wanted.
P.S. Go die? THAT'S real mature.
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Just in case you're still reading (and I bet you are; I know it's hard to step back from these):
How do you know my intentions? I didn't come on here to piss anyone off; I came on here to give advice. That's what the "comment" function on livejournal is for - COMMENTS.
Ya know why no one is coming on here to defend me? Because I don't need any defense. You've not answered any of my questions, just the same "you're a loser and immature", even though you can't give me a single example of this, nor can you show me where I've insulted anyone, where I've said that they can't say what they want, where I've done something to intentionally piss someone off, etc. None of my arguments have been refuted or have any proof against them, whereas all of YOUR arguments have zero proof or are based on shots to my character, which is a really bad method or argumentation.
As I've said over and over, if your personal life is in PUBLIC, then it is no longer personal - it's PUBLIC. If they don't want people to be able to read/respond to their choices in life, then keep it PERSONAL, not on the internet. It's the exact same way with celebrity gossip. Their lives are in the open, so people talk. Nick and Meg CHOSE to put their lives in the open, on a place where one of the basic features is the ability for ANYONE to comment on what they say. I DO have respect for personal lives, but this instance is not an example of this.
The only things I responded to are things that they CHOSE to make public. I didn't pry, I wasn't "nosy" (unless you're still looking for proof to give me on that one)... all of that was PUBLIC information.
Did I ever insult anyone? Please show me where. PLEASE. I would love to see this. I may have made a couple of small potshots, but I didn't say things NEARLY as bad as they have said to me or that you have said to me.
You HAD a point? If you did, it hasn't been made. They only thing you've done is make yourself look like a hypocrite, and show that your arguments are unfounded and weak. You still haven't given me ANY proof to support the insults you've slung at me or the claims you've made, which makes me think that there ISN'T any. So, it's a shame you're backing out. I really would've loved to see you try to give me some proof for any one of your arguments, but I guess you realised that there isn't any.
Hope you learn how to argue effectively someday. :)
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NUMBER ONE: "How do you know my intentions? I didn't come on here to piss anyone off; I came on here to give advice."
- Maybe you wanted to give advice, but you knew damn well that the things you wrote were going to hurt them, so yea, you did it intentionally.
NUMBER TWO: "Did I ever insult anyone? Please show me where. PLEASE."
- OKAY here ya go.
"it's obnoxious to see people who think they know what love really is."
"What you two have is obsession."
"It's not healthy"
"We don't have to keep online journals to post how much we love each other because we aren't insecure, immature"
(Yes those were insults, no one likes to be called those things.)
And if you're not a hypocryte, then why did you make a stupid assumption about Nick and Meg, (that they don't love each other), and then accused me of doing that to you?
NUMBER THREE: You HAD a point?
Yes I did, my point is, YOU are not going to stop their relationship from happening. Only they can do that, and they're going to follow their own hearts and not you're dumb advice.
P.S. NEVER GIVE ADVICE AGAIN, YOU SUCK AT IT
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Those aren't insults. An insult is saying "You are ______". So no, those aren't insults. Also, an insult is usually based on nothing. What I said were opinions. None of them were direct attacks on their characters, and if they were indirect, that's either due to overanalyzation or because my opinion was hurtful. Hurtful is not the same thing as an insult.
"And if you're not a hypocryte, then why did you make a stupid assumption about Nick and Meg, (that they don't love each other), and then accused me of doing that to you?"
I never said they didn't love each other, first off, so I didn't make that assumption. Second, wtf does what you said even MEAN? I pointed out that you were a hypocrite because you were telling me that I can't tell Nick and Meg what to do (which I never did in the first place, but thats' beside the point), but, in the same breath, you told ME what I could and could not do. THAT'S where the hypocrite comment came into play.
Did I ever say that I was going to stop their relationship? Did I ever say that was my point? No. I never said that they should break up. In fact, I speficially said that that was not what I was saying. So, I don't know where you're getting that information from.
I just think that certain people can't handle advice, beause they don't want advice; they want reassurance. Well, the world doesn't work that way, and sometimes what should be done isn't always the most fun thing. People have always come to me for advice and have always thanked me for it later. So, you're wrong on that one, too.
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