Trickle up: pigs in the pipe

May 04, 2007 12:52


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Momus? anonymous May 4 2007, 11:06:34 UTC
What do you consider yourself Momus? In your 40s. More of a baby boomer, age-wise?

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Re: Momus? imomus May 4 2007, 11:18:50 UTC
I'm a baxxy booxer. A bit of x and y in there.

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Re: Momus? imomus May 4 2007, 11:44:03 UTC
But of course a certain vampirism of youth -- a desire to hang onto one's own forever, of "Mick Jagger Syndrome" -- is absolutely typical of Baby Boomers.

Where I got off the Boomer bandwagon, attitudinally, anyway, is that exact 80s moment when John Lydon warbled (in the tone of a muezzin call to prayer) "Big business is very wise, I'm crossing over into enterprise".

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electricwitch May 4 2007, 11:42:03 UTC
Ugh, in Holland they´ve been going on about the babyboomers and how they´re a problem for 10 years now. But I don´t mind since they´re our parents and we live off them.

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imomus May 4 2007, 11:47:09 UTC
So you're what Faisal Islam's article calls kippers "kids in parents' pockets eroding retirement savings".

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mcgazz May 4 2007, 11:51:18 UTC
Great minds think alike (about kippers). I'm hungry now.

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electricwitch May 4 2007, 12:02:39 UTC
I would be if my parents actually had any money.

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cap_scaleman May 4 2007, 11:42:47 UTC
Simply put: Selfish Populism is not good for anyone.

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do the kids leave Britain? evxanadu May 4 2007, 12:13:48 UTC
that population animation -- WOW!

Now, where did all the kids from 1972 go?

They don't get older at a faster rate than their peers.
They're not dying off that fast, are they?

So how does it work -- do the kids leave Britain?

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Respect? anonymous May 4 2007, 13:52:39 UTC
Often thought that the UK young have more right to ire right now, than at any 'angry young men' or punk moment. Obviously that doesn't help, but even the left-thinkers I talk to debunk the Respect party. My flatmate: "They have been hijacked by the Socialist Workers Party, who are utter classist idiots"; a girl I dated who works for Hilary Benn: "Please don't vote Respect. Please. I was there when they threw stones at Oona King." To people who think George Galloway has moments, but a clownish streak as wide as his suits. All of these things just remind me of any scrappy, newish party struggling to be heard. Never pretty. I'm sure it was said of Labour. Wondering if any Click Opera readers have anything else to swing me for/against Respect?

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Re: Respect? mcgazz May 4 2007, 15:59:18 UTC
Not keen on Respect. It seems to be run by the SWP (who I have issues with) and various Muslim interest groups, some of whom don't seem to be madly into socialism (if I want to vote for patriarchal, God-bothering capitalists, I can vote Tory). One thing in Respect's favour is that the UK's warmongering neocon community detest them. Some Respect members are lovely, and I'm glad a UK left party exists, but, on the whole, I think the job could be done so much better.

All left movements in the UK still reckon they can turn the clock back to before neoliberalism/Thatcherism, when they should be thinking about how to turn the clock forward *beyond* it. We need to work out why the neoliberal revolution succeeded, not pretend it didn't happen.

Galloway I love - he's always great entertainment. What chutzpah! I salute his...etc

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