Obey the Law (of unintended consequences that is).

[illlaw]

Help wanted in Colorado - from MexicoTwo lawmakers from farm districts want Colorado to be the first state to create a guest worker program allowing immigrants to get visas to work here legally

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[kharmii]

Don't even...

Employers make about 300% profit (at least) from hiring illegal aliens. Maybe if these "poor elitest employers" would pay laborers fair wages, then maybe Americans would take the jobs. -And don't try and tell me that the savings get passed onto the consumers. Just look at what's happening with China. Those greedy corporate bastards are making a killing! If they can have slave labor working for ten cents a day, then I should be able to pay ten cents for a bottle of wine here in in the states.

I'm just too angry for sob stories right now.

[illlaw]

You think that the costs wouldn't be passed on to you?

[kharmii]

No I do not. I believe that the employers will pocket all profits. Come on now, this is the real world..... X-P

[illlaw]

Sorry let me clarify. If the employer pays wages that would entice US citizens to come work the fields do you think that they employer would bear the increased labor costs and let their profit suffer or would they pass the increased labor costs on to the consumer?

[kharmii]

Do you remember the Reagan years when immigration first became a problem? Meatpackers in Wisconsin went on strike because they weren't getting fair wages. The meatpacking company fired them all and gave the jobs to illegals. It's not as if ham suddenly became more affordable; people could go to the supermarket and buy it when Americans worked the jobs. Reagan the antilabor union breaker let them all in and there went our manufacturing

[illlaw]

Sounds like capitalism to me and that's the basis for our economy...

[kharmii]

It won't be capitalism anymore if we turn into a country of very rich and very poor working for less than minimum wage. I've been hearing conspiracy theories that we could become a 'welfare state', kind of like communism. I joke around and call it a corporate feudal system! X-D Oh wait, that's not funny..

[illlaw]

Well yeah that would still be capitalism.

[illlaw]

It seems that we agree that companies are in it for the profit alone.

Doesn't it go without saying that they will not allow decreased profits even if their costs increase?

So the ultimate question is how much more are you willing to pay to eat?

[kharmii]

Your average hard-working middle class person has been able to afford to feed his family long before illegal immigration became a problem. Anyway, I heard that the price of food is going up regardless because of being turned into an alternative fuel source.

[illlaw]

That's really not the issue. Even if food is going up it would still go up even more. How much more would people accept? 50%?

[kharmii]

We hard-working middle-class consumers always get the shaft. I always watch out for the sales because once and a while, I'll see a gallon of milk on sale for $3. -But at least I can afford it because illegals haven't destroyed my craft yet.

[illlaw]

There's no evidence that illegals have destroyed any craft but the question remains; how much more would you be willing to pay?

[kharmii]

I would be willing to pay as much as it would take to get the illegals out and preserve my way of life. Illegals have been destroying crafts by undercutting wages for decades. My grandfather supported a wife and three kids with his meatpacking job and he lived in a nice, two story house in the suburbs! Could a worker do that today?