Doctor Who, S4E6 - The Doctor's Daughter
I'm at Powder Hill, which is where my parents live. I cannot say that it is their house, as it isn't; it belongs to the estate of my late father's friend. The house is beautiful and it's great being able to stay here to look after my mum as she recuperates from minor surgery.
The plus side: no problems with torrents from here! Sharing seems to fine, while at my apartment, sharing doesn't seem to work very well (I can download fine and I can share while downloading, but once the download is done, upload seems to poof).
There's a part of me that wishes this episode was a two-parter, because there seemed to be so much information involved and so much more potential for character development in the quiet moments between the fighting, especially to see more of Martha's interactions with the Hath and more revealing to Jenny of the Doctor's history and Time Lord history.
"A Time Lord is so much more. A sum of knowledge. A code. A shared history. A shared suffering. Only it's gone now, all of it. Gone forever." I thought that was good, but I wish there was just more of it.
I really adore Jenny and I can't wait to see more of her (from my mouth to Team Cardiff's ears, y?). Georgia Moffett is really beautiful (both in the episode and in Confidential where she's sort of ginger and gothy) and quite charismatic. I like the idea that she's essentially Gallifreyan DNA but implanted with the memories and the shared (false) history of the machine. I think the contrast between her and the Doctor makes for interesting exploration. Jenny asks an interesting question, "...how are we different?" And with the examples and the context, it's true: the Doctor does fight, an awful lot, for the things that he believes in and will resort to violence when necessary. However, I think there are times when I get the impression that he wouldn't do it and I'm having a hard time reconciling when he would say it was Good and when it would be Bad.
Anyone else think that they said "sauce" and not "source"? He who controls the sauce, controls the universe!
I want the Donna/Martha show. Anyone else? The two of them were really awesome together. What did Donna when they first come out of the TARDIS and Martha says "Is that a feeling you get?" or something like that? ARGH. Need to get subtitles. But they are very cute together and I think there's genuine affection between them.
The Doctor/Donna UST factor is high with this episode! Lookie:
When Jenny distracts the guard by kissing him, look at the look he has when he turns away from Donna after she says "I'd like to see you try that".
I think that look says "Yes, I am thinking of post-episode snogging." (I love the UST.) And then the "Let's save the wiles for later? Case of emergency." *wink wink*
And then when Donna figures out the dates, you can tell he wants her:
Oh yes, really wants her:
And Donna notices too!
And Jenny is shocked!
UST MAKES THE WORLD GO 'ROUND!
(And Donna just generally kicks butt. She's so freaking smart. I hope that "I'm good with numbers" comes back 'round in another episode because that's just cool. Although... do we do Year Month Day in the US? Because I know I do it but not many people seem to date things that way. I'd say most folks in America would say today is 05102008, which I find particularly confusing. I do it 20080510 which makes the progression from larger to smaller more intuitive. 10052008 makes so much more sense to me than 05102008 when writing out dates with just numbers.)
"I love the running." There's the Doctor's DNA talking!
I wish we could understand the Hath. It's disconcerting for everything to be translated into something that we could understand except for Hath dialogue and words. It did seem that Martha understood them, though. Also, is it mean for me to say that the first part of the Martha and the Hath in the bog seemed just slightly more perilous than when Three rescued Sarah Jane from the gentle slope in "The Five Doctors"? It definitely lessened the impact for me: only on a second watch did I really feel the loss of the Hath that helped Martha on her journey. And her dialogue was removed! "What are you doing?" from the Confidential is completely gone. I don't care for that decision.
The message in this one is really fascinating: two factions, both with their own false mythologies, passed on from generation to generation and at the center of it all, the truth, is based in science. No creator. Nothing mystical. Just so much misunderstanding and confusion. Is this a hint for later on? Hmm.
The Doctor with Jenny dying is highly reminiscent of the Doctor and the Master from "Last of the Time Lords". I'm surprised that regeneration wasn't mentioned as an option *to Jenny* while she's dying by the Doctor or by Martha until after she's died. Just another example of the episode feeling really rushed. Someone on Ravelry thought that it wasn't regeneration but more like the rapid healing from residual energy-trick that the Doctor does in "The Christmas Invasion" to deal with his chopped off hand, and that feels more right to me. Still, it seemed like her Gallifreyan bits took a long time to figure that out. (And speaking of a rushed ending, what about a rushed beginning and explanation at the end. I don't understand how it was that Jenny was the reason why the TARDIS went there and that they created some sort of paradox. I need to find a transcript of the episode. What does the Doctor say about his hand? Does he say "My old hand right excited at the moment?" That's going to be capped, I'm sure, and iconed for the LOLs.)
"All those things you've been ready to die for. I thought for a moment, that you've finally found something worth living for."
OH NOES! "I'm going to travel with that man, forever." There you go. That's it. Donna has now entered Rose territory, which means that she must leave it in tragic circumstances.
*sigh* Damnit.
(Watching over Confidential and seeing David again in "The Christmas Invasion" makes me think he looks SO young. It's only two years but he seems so much more youthful as new!Ten.)
Things I wished would happen:
MOAR Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy references! "Not impossible, just very very improbable." would've made me cheer! And there were two opportunities for that line, darnit! I did love the theme music at the beginning. THAT WAS AWESOME!
"Everyone gets a tissue sample" but none from Donna or Martha? FAIL! I wanted a full compliment.
I'm sure I can think of more. On the whole, the episode was great for Jenny, great for Donna, great for Doctor/Donna, great for Donna/Martha, interesting Total Recall theme, but despite all that, there are bits that I didn't care for and it just felt rushed.
The plus side: no problems with torrents from here! Sharing seems to fine, while at my apartment, sharing doesn't seem to work very well (I can download fine and I can share while downloading, but once the download is done, upload seems to poof).
There's a part of me that wishes this episode was a two-parter, because there seemed to be so much information involved and so much more potential for character development in the quiet moments between the fighting, especially to see more of Martha's interactions with the Hath and more revealing to Jenny of the Doctor's history and Time Lord history.
"A Time Lord is so much more. A sum of knowledge. A code. A shared history. A shared suffering. Only it's gone now, all of it. Gone forever." I thought that was good, but I wish there was just more of it.
I really adore Jenny and I can't wait to see more of her (from my mouth to Team Cardiff's ears, y?). Georgia Moffett is really beautiful (both in the episode and in Confidential where she's sort of ginger and gothy) and quite charismatic. I like the idea that she's essentially Gallifreyan DNA but implanted with the memories and the shared (false) history of the machine. I think the contrast between her and the Doctor makes for interesting exploration. Jenny asks an interesting question, "...how are we different?" And with the examples and the context, it's true: the Doctor does fight, an awful lot, for the things that he believes in and will resort to violence when necessary. However, I think there are times when I get the impression that he wouldn't do it and I'm having a hard time reconciling when he would say it was Good and when it would be Bad.
Anyone else think that they said "sauce" and not "source"? He who controls the sauce, controls the universe!
I want the Donna/Martha show. Anyone else? The two of them were really awesome together. What did Donna when they first come out of the TARDIS and Martha says "Is that a feeling you get?" or something like that? ARGH. Need to get subtitles. But they are very cute together and I think there's genuine affection between them.
The Doctor/Donna UST factor is high with this episode! Lookie:
When Jenny distracts the guard by kissing him, look at the look he has when he turns away from Donna after she says "I'd like to see you try that".
I think that look says "Yes, I am thinking of post-episode snogging." (I love the UST.) And then the "Let's save the wiles for later? Case of emergency." *wink wink*
And then when Donna figures out the dates, you can tell he wants her:
Oh yes, really wants her:
And Donna notices too!
And Jenny is shocked!
UST MAKES THE WORLD GO 'ROUND!
(And Donna just generally kicks butt. She's so freaking smart. I hope that "I'm good with numbers" comes back 'round in another episode because that's just cool. Although... do we do Year Month Day in the US? Because I know I do it but not many people seem to date things that way. I'd say most folks in America would say today is 05102008, which I find particularly confusing. I do it 20080510 which makes the progression from larger to smaller more intuitive. 10052008 makes so much more sense to me than 05102008 when writing out dates with just numbers.)
"I love the running." There's the Doctor's DNA talking!
I wish we could understand the Hath. It's disconcerting for everything to be translated into something that we could understand except for Hath dialogue and words. It did seem that Martha understood them, though. Also, is it mean for me to say that the first part of the Martha and the Hath in the bog seemed just slightly more perilous than when Three rescued Sarah Jane from the gentle slope in "The Five Doctors"? It definitely lessened the impact for me: only on a second watch did I really feel the loss of the Hath that helped Martha on her journey. And her dialogue was removed! "What are you doing?" from the Confidential is completely gone. I don't care for that decision.
The message in this one is really fascinating: two factions, both with their own false mythologies, passed on from generation to generation and at the center of it all, the truth, is based in science. No creator. Nothing mystical. Just so much misunderstanding and confusion. Is this a hint for later on? Hmm.
The Doctor with Jenny dying is highly reminiscent of the Doctor and the Master from "Last of the Time Lords". I'm surprised that regeneration wasn't mentioned as an option *to Jenny* while she's dying by the Doctor or by Martha until after she's died. Just another example of the episode feeling really rushed. Someone on Ravelry thought that it wasn't regeneration but more like the rapid healing from residual energy-trick that the Doctor does in "The Christmas Invasion" to deal with his chopped off hand, and that feels more right to me. Still, it seemed like her Gallifreyan bits took a long time to figure that out. (And speaking of a rushed ending, what about a rushed beginning and explanation at the end. I don't understand how it was that Jenny was the reason why the TARDIS went there and that they created some sort of paradox. I need to find a transcript of the episode. What does the Doctor say about his hand? Does he say "My old hand right excited at the moment?" That's going to be capped, I'm sure, and iconed for the LOLs.)
"All those things you've been ready to die for. I thought for a moment, that you've finally found something worth living for."
OH NOES! "I'm going to travel with that man, forever." There you go. That's it. Donna has now entered Rose territory, which means that she must leave it in tragic circumstances.
*sigh* Damnit.
(Watching over Confidential and seeing David again in "The Christmas Invasion" makes me think he looks SO young. It's only two years but he seems so much more youthful as new!Ten.)
Things I wished would happen:
MOAR Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy references! "Not impossible, just very very improbable." would've made me cheer! And there were two opportunities for that line, darnit! I did love the theme music at the beginning. THAT WAS AWESOME!
"Everyone gets a tissue sample" but none from Donna or Martha? FAIL! I wanted a full compliment.
I'm sure I can think of more. On the whole, the episode was great for Jenny, great for Donna, great for Doctor/Donna, great for Donna/Martha, interesting Total Recall theme, but despite all that, there are bits that I didn't care for and it just felt rushed.