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ifreet

Book squee, extended version part one

May 26, 2006 12:19

Two things first--
1) I owe you and you (and also, you) comments, because you're being all interactive and insightful and stuff, but I already know I won't get to it tonight, because I'm being all hermetic.

2) I just fixed a window with a hammer.

( Okay, so about Enterprising Women: Television Fandom and the Creation of Popular Culture by Camille Bacon-Smith, specifically Part I: Who Are These People and What Are They Doing? and even more specifically the parts addressing fanfiction )

enterprising women, reviews, squee

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Clothing! ifreet May 26 2006, 21:21:51 UTC

(When the experience is cool and informative, the use of said experience as a referent is not tedious to one's audience. Refer away ( ... )

Size! ifreet May 26 2006, 21:45:46 UTC

I think you're probably right-- if there were some way to measure/follow changes in fandom allegiance, I bet we'd find a statistically significant increase in people leaving fandoms prior to a major schism, with people citing reasons such as "This fandom's just not as fun as it used to be" for moving on. There does seem to have been some amount of changing/reinventing the fannish self back in the days of zines, even if it would seem more difficult. But if the reason for the drift really is that the group is too large, too unmanageable, it's not hard to imagine talking/corresponding with your closer fandom friends about this great NEW book/movie/series that you'd discovered. And of course, these friends would check it out, because, hey, they already trust your judgment on some aspect of fandom, and SOME of those friends would agree that the new thing is also good. And they'd mention it to a few other fandom friends, in conversations and letters, and by the time y'all started to drift away from the big thing, you'd have the ( ... )

cultural studies on "slash" etc. andre_leo June 13 2006, 02:56:02 UTC

Hey there--

I'm just catching up on your LJ exegesis of Enterprising Women and finding it intriguing. And fun -- it's fun to watch you simply enthuse over a book. An intellectual contact high!

I think I mentioned a cultural-studies piece in an anthology I once read -- the article I first read about "slash" in . . . Anyway, I just found the book on Google Books; it's called Technoculture, edited by Constance Penley and Andrew Ross, and the article is "Brownian Motion: Women, Tactics, and Technology," by Constance Penley. Okay, it's missing a few pages in the Google version ("restricted"), but they left in the hilarious Kirk/Spock porn images.

Ah, camp! 'Tis the spice of life. As I think Gilbert and Sullivan once said. Or was that "poetry"?

ifreet June 14 2006, 05:59:49 UTC

I am still capable of being extremely geeky over anthropology -- I'm glad it's providing my friends with amusement. (Thanks for the links!)

the hilarious Kirk/Spock porn images
What, like this?

Love that artist. I spent forever tracking down an image of this painting, after first seeing it in a book that I had no interest whatsoever in actually owning... except for this one page.

Size! andre_leo June 13 2006, 03:40:55 UTC

There's a lot of literature on the effects of community size out there . . . See this bit from A Pattern Language, for instance, and this bit, and this one.

(Proudhon talked about this, too. Sorry, had to mention. :-)