Oow baby...

[iflie]

From I didn't know I was pregnant:

"Amazingly without any drugs D gives birth vaginally..."Myeah, human females have been giving birth for aprox. 100.000 years and suddenly it doesn't happen without drugs!? Though I have heard American programs claim similar things, how amazing it is that a woman would give birth without medical attention. (Maybe

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[pixietulip]

6 hours is nothing! For first babies it's usually 10 or more hours. Subsequent babies are quicker (my sisters second was like a bullet!) because you've already been stretched once, but the afterpains are worse.

There also seems to be a misconception that c-sections are easy and you aren't in pain. I was my mums third child and I was born by c-section (I stopped growing at 28 weeks and mum had pre-eclampsia and eclampsia and we could've died and stuff) and she said it was more awful than giving birth because of so much pain afterwards and the grogginess and longer healing time.

I saw this world birthday thing and it sounds simialr to the show you're reffering too but they had some blurring of the lady gardens.

On the opposite of this show I listened to this girl being taught about alternative child birth in her child care course and there was this couple who wanted to be all natural so left the placenta attached to the baby to let it fall off naturally (which it did after a couple of days) to me this was like what? That's not natural, mother animals bite of the placenta and eat it. No animal leaves it dangling off their baby to rot slowly. Gross. It would attract predators. They've gone so 'natural' that they're being unnatural.

[iflie]

Yeah the recovery of a normal birth is a few days but with a c-section they slice through very sensitive tissues and muscles that will have to heal. Plus afterwards you can get pains from scar tissue. It really is for emergencies only.

LOL imagine carrying the placenta around with the baby. Yuck. There is always a bit of cord that gets left on and drops off after a few days but that's natural. It doesn't rot like the placenta might.

If I ever have a baby I think I would like to keep the cord to harvest the blood for the stemcells. In case it ever needs them.

Myeah hippies can be very unnatural, like when they go vegetarian.

~Iflie

[pixietulip]

Apparently they carried the placenta in a towel. Yuck. I imagine it would've been very awkward having when handing the baby over and breast feeding because if you didn't keep the placenta close enough the weight of it would pull on the baby's stomach.

The cord can rot a bit - my neice's went a bit smelly and manky before it dropped off. Depends on how much air gets to it and how dry it is kept (which can be abit hard when the baby is clothed all the time)

[iflie]

I guess it depends on how long the cord is. But hell those people were insane.

Maybe the cord started to smell because they got it wet while bathing, normally a baby would be far less clothed so the air would dry the cord enough for it not to be an issue as with all other mammals. But you can't keep a kid clean and warm without a bath and clothing. I think I would try dousing the thing with babypowder just in case some moisture got in. And any baby has to be free from diapers and clothes as much as possible, much better for their skin and any diaper rash.

Most newborns smell great though so it must not be that common that it rots.

~Iflie

[pixietulip]

The whole better to be free of clothes and nappies is fine in theory but so great in practise when the baby is born in winter and is so small it has trouble keeping heat in! Nope no baby powder on it - that's a way to get infection too. I thik it's not common, but it's not uncommon either and it's not a really bad smell, just when you lifted it up to dry it and stuff. Like piercings only smell bad if you actually go right close, or belly buttons only smell bad if you stick your finger in there and smell it!

[iflie]

Like I said to keep the baby warm you have to use clothes. But even in winter there are options for having the baby be naked unless you don't have adequate heating installed. Newborns are more fragile than a few months old, at that age I do have a few pics of me on a blanket in the yard on a sunny day.

The drying cord is not longer a source of possible infection for the infant unless it's wet. Infection needs moisture so baby powder would not get it infected. Otherwise dousing the babies butt with it would be dangerous too.

I think it will depend on the moisture in the air where you live too and if you keep it dry while bathing the baby.

My earpiercings don't smell bad, and a while back I noticed that my bellybutton had a bad smell after cleaning it with my finger and I then went on a campaign to undo it because it never happened before. I found it disgusting. I used peroxide (3%) and washed it thoroughly, making sure to dry it very well and kept some tissue in it during the day because it was very hot in the summer and sweaty.

I think that in part caused the smell anyway. And now it no longer smells and I wash it a bit more than I used to. No way I'm going to live with a bad smell like that but maybe mine had a worse smell than yours. I didn't smell it either unless on something I had stuck in it.

In my googling what it may be I did reads stories of people who smelled it right through their shirts and didn't really care, arghhhh.

~Iflie

[pixietulip]

Yeah I was agreeing with you :)

I actually looked this up and you shouldn't use talcum powder on the umbilical cord because it can be an irritant.

My nose piercings don't smell too hot but my nose is a pretty damp area (but again it's only if I mess around with them). I've noticed sometimes when I take out earrings that have been in you ears a looong time and they have little bits of build up on them they can be smelly. Apparently those extender piercings some people have in their ears can be quite unpleasant.

Eeew people could smell it through their t-shirt! Even if they didn't care what about the general population! Have you heard of that guy who collected his belly button lint in jars? I bet that stinks if you open the jar lid.

[pixietulip]

That was me being unsigned in. Oops.

[iflie]

Hm I didn't know that about regular talcum powder, just about the mentholated stuff I sometimes like to use. Sometimes I'd use that on itchy spots that get left after I shave, which means it can get on the rest of the crotch area and that isn't always pleasant. (though not as bad as alcohol deodorant on your freshly shaven pit, yikes)

I guess I should also not preserve my baby in salt, lol. Honey might work though, just a bit messy. That stuff never goes bad in it's natural state. But then you get people licking your baby and it would get flies.

Yeah I've read about the stretching piercings being gross, kind of takes the fun out of it I'd think. My earrings slide around easily so they don't get buildup, and the hole no longer closes if I take them out. So you don't get any smegma (the stinky stuff).

Bellybutton lint sounds not very stinky actually. It would act like the little bits of tissue I used in mine, keeping the moisture away and when removed maybe it would take the skincells with it. And dry stuff doesn't smell bad. I've never had lint myself.

And some people don't care how they smell to other people. They don't like to bathe and think a smell is just natural. I think the 100 meter freespot next to wherever they are is more natural.

~Iflie