AVENGERS ASSEMBLE!

[ianvass]

Such a good movie. The Hulk had some of the best scenes.

And for those who haven't seen it yet, plan to stay all the way through the credits - there are two easter egg scenes, not just one.

For those who have seen it (and saw the first easter egg scene in the credits):

[Spoiler (click to open)]
Holy crap Thanos! I so did not see that coming, but I am now super excited for the

Comments

[theweaselking]

It's harder for DC since they don't own the rights to Superman, Batman, or Green Lantern.

Marvel never sold Iron Man, Cap, and Thor, and they got lucky and arranged to get Hulk back.

As far as I know, he's the only Marvel/DC cross actor. Am I wrong?

Yes. Cyclops was killed off 2 minutes into X3 because James Marsden was appearing in Superman and Brett Ratner felt this was a betrayal - but Marsden was in both X1/2/3 and Superman 5.

(Chris Evans was in Fantastic Four as well as Captain America - FF was from a non-Marvel studio and was so bad that it FELT like a DC movie, does that count?)

[ianvass]

It's harder for DC since they don't own the rights to Superman, Batman, or Green Lantern.

Well, dagnabbit. We all lose, then. Maybe they can make some deals based off everyone seeing the success of the Avengers and the money involved?

We can only hope, but the prospects seem dim.

Yes. Cyclops was killed off 2 minutes into X3 because James Marsden was appearing in Superman and Brett Ratner felt this was a betrayal - but Marsden was in both X1/2/3 and Superman 5.

Perhaps I should say Ryan is the only Marvel/DC cross actor with characters still alive. :) Marsden couldn't show up in an Avengers movie barring Dark Phoenix reviving him (after being revived herself) or some other comic book shenanigans.

[Spoiler (click to open)]Not to say that Coulson might not come back, either! Hope hope hope. He was my fav running character!

(Chris Evans was in Fantastic Four as well as Captain America - FF was from a non-Marvel studio and was so bad that it FELT like a DC movie, does that count?)Ooo, ouch. I bet he wishes IMDB wasn't so darned thorough. That'd be a movie

[theweaselking]

Ryan Reynolds would also need a resurrection to appear in an Avengers movie.

More likely, in both cases they would simply ignore all previous movies and make a new one from scratch - like how Batman Begins completely ignored all the previous Batmans, and how Casino Royale was out of continuity with other Bond movies, etc.

[ianvass]

Ryan Reynolds would also need a resurrection to appear in an Avengers movie.

[Spoiler (click to open)]Nah, Deadpool was clearly alive in one of the easter egg scenes at the end of the Wolvie movie. He may end up being a recurring character and could easily star in his own movie.

At least, that's the hope. We'll see what happens, right?

More likely, in both cases they would simply ignore all previous movies and make a new one from scratch - like how Batman Begins completely ignored all the previous Batmans, and how Casino Royale was out of continuity with other Bond movies, etc.

Yeah, you're probably right. But perhaps they will take a cue from Marvel and make sure all the prequel movies are worth watching...

Though it raises the question - do we need another Batman/Superman prequel movie? We know the characters already. Would it be overkill to introduce another storyline for the sole purpose of bringing them into a JLA movie? Perhaps, perhaps not.

[theweaselking]

Though it raises the question - do we need another Batman/Superman prequel movie? We know the characters already. Would it be overkill to introduce another storyline for the sole purpose of bringing them into a JLA movie? Perhaps, perhaps not. Well, it depends whether or not Nolan kills off Batman at the end of The Dark Knight Rises

[ianvass]

Well, it depends whether or not Nolan kills off Batman at the end of The Dark Knight Rises?

I don't recall where I heard this, but if they did a JLA movie, they'd be pulling together a whole new cast. None of the current folks would be in it. Sadly, too, since I think Bale's Batman is pretty darned good, barring the marbles-in-his-voice Batman voice.

Of course, as you say, it's moot if he dies.

Take the Ed Norton Hulk, for example - the origin story is covered, entirely, in the opening sequence, and the movie tells the story from there without bothering to introduce the characters further

Exactly. if the X-men had done this, it would have been better. Marvel did this right with Avengers. Now let's hope that the scripts don't get stupid from here on out, right?

[theweaselking]

Maybe they can make some deals based off everyone seeing the success of the Avengers and the money involved?

More likely, they'll be in the same boat as Marvel with Spiderman, The Punisher, The Fantastic Four, Daredevil, and a couple of others: They sold the rights to make movies with those characters, and as long as anyone is making a ton of money with comic book movies, those rights are NOT coming home until they're absolutely required to.

It's like how DC has maintained the rights to Watchmen: The deal is that as soon as Watchmen goes out of print, all rights to the product and all characters revert to Alan Moore. DC's been screwing him out of money and control for *decades* simply never letting it go out of print. They did money-losing print runs for years as an investment to ensure that the book stayed with them, on the theory that the critically acclaimed extremely-popular comic that's considered "among the best ever" was a good idea to hold on to for the peanuts that a small print run costs. And, hey, it paid off for

[ianvass]

When it's all about the Benjamins, we lose. :( Spiderman has had some good movies, but all the rest of the Marvel movies you list (Elektra being one you didn't list, though she was tied to Daredevil) haven't been up to par. Do you know who else has been sold?

I'm hoping for a good Dr Strange flick someday. I really liked him growing up, and seeing him throw some of his mystical might around would be pretty darned cool.