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Dec 01, 2011 13:06

It is curious, to some extent, to see reactions to something which quite firmly belongs in... superstition, fairy stories. Some of us will believe quite easily, some will react angrily, and some will not quite believe it, but find pleasure in the reminder of childhood - to believe without skepticism or logic impeding ( Read more... )

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timesbureaucrat December 1 2011, 22:52:47 UTC
Those...creatures need not be the product of superstition at all, except to primitives who lack the knowledge to interpret their existence any other way. There was a fascinating study done centuries ago that suggested that many of Earth's superstitions about inhuman entities might originate from various early alien contacts.

[Narvin will cling to his cold, hard logic to his dying breath.]

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iam_aghost December 1 2011, 22:56:25 UTC
A fair summation, Coordinator. But I do wonder how you explain the... continued demonstrations of life after death, so to speak?

[Caesares luffs it really, Narvin. He's just a doubting atheist instead of a doubting believer.]

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timesbureaucrat December 1 2011, 23:15:21 UTC
There's a variety of ways it could be done with advanced technology. Simulated reality. Brain matrix storage. Jumps between near-parallel universes. Time manipulation. It would take a fair amount of power and technological resources, but it's not impossible.

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iam_aghost December 1 2011, 23:18:43 UTC
Except... now, this is nothing more than a thought to be humoured, not my actual opinion, but could you not be doing the same thing in the other direction? Putting blind belief in science - that there must be a scientific explanation and anything else has no worth and is impossible... much like some people would say everything can be explained by God, and find a way to make it fit.

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timesbureaucrat December 2 2011, 00:19:28 UTC
That's absurd. My hypotheses are based on evidence, not blind belief. All the methods I suggested are things I've seen done.

[He pauses for a moment, because he doesn't like to talk about Gallifrey's less-than-glorious ancient past.]

My people used to rule with superstition and magic. But even the "magic" was later discovered to have rational explanations. And so-called gods are still mere entities of the universe, powerful but not inexplicable. Not long ago it was agency policy to masquerade as divine entities when engaging with primitive civilizations. I don't doubt that other advanced species do the same.

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hi just dropping in to be rude darknessb4me December 3 2011, 04:05:03 UTC
Outworlder. Your inmate is a sorceror.

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wouldn't have Arthas any other way! timesbureaucrat December 3 2011, 04:40:02 UTC
And I'm sure there's a rational explanation involving the physics of power exchange in his universe that accounts for it.

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<3 lawl darknessb4me December 3 2011, 04:42:50 UTC
And I'm a fucking zombie.

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timesbureaucrat December 3 2011, 04:49:31 UTC
Forced persistence of electrical pulses keeping the body going after death. I've seen it before, on Gallifrey, even. They could only say two words, though, so bravo on having a slightly more sophisticated vocabulary.

[Narvin finds it so much easier to snark be brave over the network. Where there's less chance of Arthas picking him up and slamming his face into the floor.]

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darknessb4me December 3 2011, 07:49:12 UTC
I oversaw my own transition into undeath.

That isn't how it works.

So....

Go to hell.

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