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May 23, 2005 16:40

Alright, look. I know that i'm more of an aquaintance to most people going to california than an actual friend. But i like you guys and am doing my best to try and be a friend even while i see the whisperings which take place behind my back. i guess this is where i'm supposed to say i'm sorry for showing up and making things even more uneasy ( Read more... )

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tricked4treats May 24 2005, 06:10:08 UTC

i've never met scott before and so i don't have anything against him. however i do understand the awkward position it puts on andy if he came along. i'm not saying scott should or shouldn't come along. but i am not driving all the way across the country for sunshine and lollipops. i am going to california to see a friend i haven't seen in a long time. and if scott wants to go on vacation and see california than that is fine. if he feels that he is uncomfortable or making people uncomfortable or whatever than he can stay someplace else. not that i don't want to include him in on things. it's just that i would rather hang out with andy than see some neat attractions with someone i haven't even met before. now i don't mind hanging out with scott and checking out some of california with him but i plan on hanging out with andy more than not hanging out with andy. no way am i going all the way out there only to say, "no, you come here." andy is my friend and i am not going to hang out with a stranger over him. if everyone else wants to stay someplace else than i guess that is fine but i am still staying at the andy camp place.

i don't want to force an uncomfortable situation on andy, and making him come to us becuase we are hanging with his ex-girfriend's boyfriend is an uncomfortable situation.

i hope this doesnt sound like i am "choosing sides" here because that isn't what i am doing. it's just that this isn't so much as a vacation but a chance to hang out with a friend i haven't seen in a long time. it's unfortunate that all of this has happened. i am sure scott is a really great guy and i don't want it to sound like i am outing him when i haven't even met him. i would be more than fine with having scott come along. and i think it would be wise if he stayed someplace other than at the andy camp, to avoid the uncomfortble situations. but california isn't very exciting alone and it is also somewhat uncomfortable to split up the group like that (those staying with andy vs those staying with scott). i really don't know what to do about the whole situation. i guess it's really up to scott. but i am not going to stay someplace other than where andy is and then say that andy has to come to us.

maybe i just misread what you said. to me it seems that what you are saying is we are not going to hang with andy if he doesn't feel comfortable hanging with scott. you present the choice as if it belonged to andy, but it doesn't really leave him much for options. it only shifts the blame when there shouldn't be any in the first place.

correct me if i got this all wrong.

and scott, i'm sure your a great guy and it would probably be a blast to hang with you. i'm not trying to diss you or anything. it's only the way that the box unfolds. if i have to choose between hanging out with you or andy then i am obviously going to hang out with andy. sorry.

The missing piece... soresuress May 24 2005, 13:41:09 UTC

The problem is not with Scott...it is with me, essentially. It is not as if Scott not going would solve any problems, it is if I go, there will be problems, apparently, as stated by Andy, regardless, I think, if Scott is there or not. I am at an impass as to how to go about this, but I guess I now have one vote for and one vote against.

Re: The missing piece... tricked4treats May 24 2005, 17:25:51 UTC

i know the problem isn't with scott. all i am saying is that i am not staying someplace other than what was already planned because of whatever, which is what i think kevin was proposing. maybe i read it wrong. i didn't really want to get into any of this but i don't think we should change where we are staying becuase of it. and i really can't say anything about anything else because none of those decisions are mine. i'm not voting for anything here.

Re: The missing piece... losifer May 24 2005, 18:21:57 UTC

I guess I was trying to think of any compromise that I could. But after what you said, I agree with you. It's often difficult for me to stay out of things when I want so badly to help. I've just got to remember myself and let the people who need to work this out. sorry guys.

Re: The missing piece... tricked4treats May 24 2005, 21:44:07 UTC

i don't blame you for trying to find compromise. the situation doesn't make it easy though. you're a good friend to try and help out even though all we can do is stand by sometimes.

and i don't know what else to say so how about a joke?

what did the judge say to the skunk?

!truoc eht ni rodo

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