Sunday the 11th as it happens, just a week away! *hyperventilate*
So assuming an unbroken run of 1 episode per week, that means I'll get [counts on calendar] 5 episodes in before I run away to Oz-tray-Leah? :-/ Not that I'm suggesting they don't have the Internet there or anything, but my access is likely to be far more restricted than it is here! Oh well...
Personally I thought he was going for South African, though how any of those nationalities served with Jack in US Special Forces is quite beyond me.
Yeah, I was wondering about that as well - although we do know that Jack has worked in co-operation with British forces at some point in the past because he knew Stephen Saunders from season 3. (If memory serves they worked together in the initial strike against the Drazens that preceded season 1, I think.)
The reason I thought it was Irish was because of the consistent pronunciation of harsh 'i' sounds as 'oi', e.g. 'like' become 'loik', though to Robert Carlyle's credit he was mostly being pretty subtle about it. Then again, every South African I've ever met primarily spoke Afrikaans which made their English heavily accented - I'm not really sure what a subtle South African accent would sound like! :)
What I'd like to know is how the whole column of people managed to walk past said mine without anyone else actually stepping on it. Why did it only happen when Mr. Benton turned back?
Yeah, I wondered that as well. At first (because I hadn't been paying full attention) I thought the kid had strayed off the path to retrieve the scarf, but then wondered how the hell the scarf got there in the first place when I realised it was the Special Scarf of Specialness.
What makes that moment even more of a wallbanger was that there were multiple mines planted (I think - I'm sure there's two visible in the same shot at one point) so not only did the entire column miraculously avoid that mine, they avoided all the others too!
Indeed. Most enjoyable. And more proof that Jack is, in fact, a one-man army.
Not only that, but that torture is a totally effective device for quickly gaining accurate information unless it's against Jack Bauer. Then you're screwed.
Though interestingly, although there is the impression that Benton killed people, you never see him do it. You just see Jack taking out people left and right.
Doesn't Benton kill those guys who Jack sent in his direction with his false torture-information, or does that happen off-screen? Or does he just hide and let them pass? I thought I was paying attention but there's a surprising amount of things I can't recall now. :-/
So assuming an unbroken run of 1 episode per week, that means I'll get ... 5 episodes in before I run away to Oz-tray-Leah?
Actually, you'll get 8, because there is a 4 hour season premiere - 2 hours on Sunday, 2 hours on Monday, and then 4 episodes on each of the next four weeks.
I'm not really sure what a subtle South African accent would sound like!
Pretty much like what Robert Carlyle was using for the most part. The South African accent tends to make a's into more of an "eh" sound like in "met", and i's into something more like "oi", though it depends on the word. I'd think you're also more likely to find a Seuth Efrekan working in Africa somewhere, and many Seuth Efrekans have been mercenaries or worked in foreign units.
I'm sure there's two visible in the same shot at one point
Yes, there were at least two visible in one shot.
they avoided all the others too!
They walked through a minefield and nobody noticed. Amazing.
Then you're screwed.
That's everyone's situation with Jack regardless.
Doesn't Benton kill those guys who Jack sent in his direction with his false torture-information, or does that happen off-screen?
You see the guys as they go crouching through the trees, and then a shot of Benton cocking some sort of pistol, though why he'd do that when he's carrying a high powered rifle is anyone's guess, and then they cut to a shot of Jack and the main bad dude where we simply hear a couple of shots. The main bad dude goes to check, and then Jack applies the Thighs of DeathTM!
I just had another quick watch of some of the Robert Carlyle scenes and I still hear it as Irish, though I wonder if it might be my brain picking the accent I'm more familiar with. Frankly, given the whole 'we are blatantly different nationalities and yet served together at some point' bit I wasn't really expecting Benton's reason for being there to make logical sense. :)
You see the guys as they go crouching through the trees ... then they cut to a shot of Jack and the main bad dude where we simply hear a couple of shots.
Ah, that sounds familiar. Obviously Jack is the only one who's allowed to be visibly competent, and any other character acting competently has to do so off-screen to preserve the balance. Or maybe they were worried that the Thighs of DeathTM would immediately over-shadow it. :P
So assuming an unbroken run of 1 episode per week, that means I'll get [counts on calendar] 5 episodes in before I run away to Oz-tray-Leah? :-/ Not that I'm suggesting they don't have the Internet there or anything, but my access is likely to be far more restricted than it is here! Oh well...
Personally I thought he was going for South African, though how any of those nationalities served with Jack in US Special Forces is quite beyond me.
Yeah, I was wondering about that as well - although we do know that Jack has worked in co-operation with British forces at some point in the past because he knew Stephen Saunders from season 3. (If memory serves they worked together in the initial strike against the Drazens that preceded season 1, I think.)
The reason I thought it was Irish was because of the consistent pronunciation of harsh 'i' sounds as 'oi', e.g. 'like' become 'loik', though to Robert Carlyle's credit he was mostly being pretty subtle about it. Then again, every South African I've ever met primarily spoke Afrikaans which made their English heavily accented - I'm not really sure what a subtle South African accent would sound like! :)
What I'd like to know is how the whole column of people managed to walk past said mine without anyone else actually stepping on it. Why did it only happen when Mr. Benton turned back?
Yeah, I wondered that as well. At first (because I hadn't been paying full attention) I thought the kid had strayed off the path to retrieve the scarf, but then wondered how the hell the scarf got there in the first place when I realised it was the Special Scarf of Specialness.
What makes that moment even more of a wallbanger was that there were multiple mines planted (I think - I'm sure there's two visible in the same shot at one point) so not only did the entire column miraculously avoid that mine, they avoided all the others too!
Indeed. Most enjoyable. And more proof that Jack is, in fact, a one-man army.
Not only that, but that torture is a totally effective device for quickly gaining accurate information unless it's against Jack Bauer. Then you're screwed.
Though interestingly, although there is the impression that Benton killed people, you never see him do it. You just see Jack taking out people left and right.
Doesn't Benton kill those guys who Jack sent in his direction with his false torture-information, or does that happen off-screen? Or does he just hide and let them pass? I thought I was paying attention but there's a surprising amount of things I can't recall now. :-/
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Actually, you'll get 8, because there is a 4 hour season premiere - 2 hours on Sunday, 2 hours on Monday, and then 4 episodes on each of the next four weeks.
I'm not really sure what a subtle South African accent would sound like!
Pretty much like what Robert Carlyle was using for the most part. The South African accent tends to make a's into more of an "eh" sound like in "met", and i's into something more like "oi", though it depends on the word. I'd think you're also more likely to find a Seuth Efrekan working in Africa somewhere, and many Seuth Efrekans have been mercenaries or worked in foreign units.
I'm sure there's two visible in the same shot at one point
Yes, there were at least two visible in one shot.
they avoided all the others too!
They walked through a minefield and nobody noticed. Amazing.
Then you're screwed.
That's everyone's situation with Jack regardless.
Doesn't Benton kill those guys who Jack sent in his direction with his false torture-information, or does that happen off-screen?
You see the guys as they go crouching through the trees, and then a shot of Benton cocking some sort of pistol, though why he'd do that when he's carrying a high powered rifle is anyone's guess, and then they cut to a shot of Jack and the main bad dude where we simply hear a couple of shots. The main bad dude goes to check, and then Jack applies the Thighs of DeathTM!
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I just had another quick watch of some of the Robert Carlyle scenes and I still hear it as Irish, though I wonder if it might be my brain picking the accent I'm more familiar with. Frankly, given the whole 'we are blatantly different nationalities and yet served together at some point' bit I wasn't really expecting Benton's reason for being there to make logical sense. :)
You see the guys as they go crouching through the trees ... then they cut to a shot of Jack and the main bad dude where we simply hear a couple of shots.
Ah, that sounds familiar. Obviously Jack is the only one who's allowed to be visibly competent, and any other character acting competently has to do so off-screen to preserve the balance. Or maybe they were worried that the Thighs of DeathTM would immediately over-shadow it. :P
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