I needed two posts too...and Lee's still a retardhushpuppy22March 14 2006, 22:51:02 UTC
Kara's remarks about Dee were cruel, but I think that was some of Kara's real feelings coming through in her drunken state. If Kara approved of Lee/Dee or wasn't jealous in some way, she wouldn't have said it. And Kara only spoke her mind when she finally had the security of her own lover. Kara took a risk, because it was probably eating her up inside and in her euphoric drunk state, she ran her mouth. ITA. She doesn't approve of Dee and she let Lee know. I think Lee was probably pissed that she insulted his frak buddy, but to me it was much more about Kara making out with Sam in front of Lee that threw him off the deep end. She was shoving her happiness in Lee's face.
I love your analysis of this scene and I can't look at it the same anymore. It just seems that Sam's confidence with Kara illustrates just how retarded Lee can be. I can't see Lee impulsively pulling Kara into his lap for a kiss, he's just too controlled. Lee's control comes off as rejection and criticism to Kara, especially since she's afraid that she isn't good enough for Lee. They each need to move towards common ground before they can gave any sort of working relationship. Do I feel sorry for Lee? Yes, because it was more obvious in that scene than in Scar that Lee is completely in love with Kara. It blows my mind that TPTB want us to buy into the crap-fest that is Lee/Dee and at the same time have Lee showing the viewers very much he loves Kara. Ugh! We all knew he loved her, but like you said he really illustrated his longing and desire in LDYB2 and 2. The look on his face when Kara left his office in LDYB1 was so "woe is me, she loves another man and I don't want her to" and of course he was as jealous as all get out in LDYB2.
Because until LDYB2, Lee thought Anders was just another one of Kara's ghosts. The "I hope you find him" was such a lie. Of course, whenever someone says "I really do" it means they don't mean what they just said so.. He doens't know what to do with the reality of Kara in love with someone else, again. Lee is as much of a chicken as Kara concerning their relationship. I think he's afraid that he isn't good enough for her. Anders is a major threat because he has confidence, he's tall and he acts instead of over-thinking. Lee wanted Anders to be a loser, but he turns out to be just as great as Kara thought he was. It had to be a huge blow to Lee.
Lee made a choice and I'm glad he has to suffer the consequences. No wonder Lee is fat now, Dee would drive any man to depression. Anders is almost Kara's equal while Dee is not even close to being Lee's equal in every way (one of the reasons I hate their relationship). Plus, Kara is actually in love with Anders, which is so very different from Lee's "relationship" with Lee. Kara's love affair with Sam emphasizes how little Lee has--hence the noodles. But where is Lee going to go from here? How are we going to get from where we are to where Kara and Lee can be together?
as hot as Kara Anders were in their little make-out scene, Lee and Kara doing the same scene would be 100 times hotter. Agreed. I'm surprised my tv doesn't explode when Kara and Lee are on the screen together because their chemistry is unbelievable. They are the OTP. I am fine with Kara being with Anders though because he makes her happy and I think it's really important that she has unconditional love right now.
Lee has flipped out on Kara too many times since the mini for Kara to trust Lee with her heart. If we analyzed their actions using the book
ITA. She doesn't approve of Dee and she let Lee know. I think Lee was probably pissed that she insulted his frak buddy, but to me it was much more about Kara making out with Sam in front of Lee that threw him off the deep end. She was shoving her happiness in Lee's face.
I love your analysis of this scene and I can't look at it the same anymore. It just seems that Sam's confidence with Kara illustrates just how retarded Lee can be. I can't see Lee impulsively pulling Kara into his lap for a kiss, he's just too controlled. Lee's control comes off as rejection and criticism to Kara, especially since she's afraid that she isn't good enough for Lee. They each need to move towards common ground before they can gave any sort of working relationship.
Do I feel sorry for Lee? Yes, because it was more obvious in that scene than in Scar that Lee is completely in love with Kara. It blows my mind that TPTB want us to buy into the crap-fest that is Lee/Dee and at the same time have Lee showing the viewers very much he loves Kara. Ugh! We all knew he loved her, but like you said he really illustrated his longing and desire in LDYB2 and 2. The look on his face when Kara left his office in LDYB1 was so "woe is me, she loves another man and I don't want her to" and of course he was as jealous as all get out in LDYB2.
Because until LDYB2, Lee thought Anders was just another one of Kara's ghosts.
The "I hope you find him" was such a lie. Of course, whenever someone says "I really do" it means they don't mean what they just said so.. He doens't know what to do with the reality of Kara in love with someone else, again. Lee is as much of a chicken as Kara concerning their relationship. I think he's afraid that he isn't good enough for her. Anders is a major threat because he has confidence, he's tall and he acts instead of over-thinking. Lee wanted Anders to be a loser, but he turns out to be just as great as Kara thought he was. It had to be a huge blow to Lee.
Lee made a choice and I'm glad he has to suffer the consequences. No wonder Lee is fat now, Dee would drive any man to depression.
Anders is almost Kara's equal while Dee is not even close to being Lee's equal in every way (one of the reasons I hate their relationship). Plus, Kara is actually in love with Anders, which is so very different from Lee's "relationship" with Lee. Kara's love affair with Sam emphasizes how little Lee has--hence the noodles. But where is Lee going to go from here? How are we going to get from where we are to where Kara and Lee can be together?
as hot as Kara Anders were in their little make-out scene, Lee and Kara doing the same scene would be 100 times hotter. Agreed. I'm surprised my tv doesn't explode when Kara and Lee are on the screen together because their chemistry is unbelievable. They are the OTP. I am fine with Kara being with Anders though because he makes her happy and I think it's really important that she has unconditional love right now.
Lee has flipped out on Kara too many times since the mini for Kara to trust Lee with her heart. If we analyzed their actions using the book
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