Re: Hmmm... Part 2pilly2009August 30 2005, 13:10:26 UTC
Sorry, I didn't mean to say that they *don't* have affection for him. I just meant that by GoF Percy's pompousness is getting teased to the point where it's not affectionate.
Ack, my apologies again for reading you wrong. It's just that you mentioned that the family that showed love for the pranking twins could not also show love for Percy's pompousness, but later gave an example in your second post about how Molly's affection for the twins is apparent despite her scolding of them. I kind of put these together, because Molly loves the twins in spite of their pranks and teasing, not because of it; and similarly to me, the Weasleys (pre-OotP) loved Percy in spite of his pompousness, not because of it.
I don't think the Penelope thing was Percy being ashamed of anything, though. He was over-sensitive about his family finding out and Fred and George probably making him look silly in front of Penelope. I don't think anybody in that situation is acting in a particularly bad way, and they all care about Ginny.
I didn't mean to imply that anyone was acting badly, or that Percy was ashamed of Penelope, but to indicate that it could be taken as such, especially by Penelope. So although I have seen accusation hurled at Ginny for revealing such a deep secret of Percy's to the twins of all people, the only thing I have ever faulted her for was for revealing a secret that wasn't really hers to reveal. It wasn't as though Ginny had spilled some dirty little secret of his that she should have kept out of consideration for his possible treatment at the hands of Fred and George, seeing as a) said treatment didn't even occur, and b) if he was serious about Penny, she would have had to meet his family eventually, anyway.
There's an inquiry and Harry thinks to himself that he doesn't think Percy did that good of a job since he failed to notice Crouch was under Imperius.
A little OT, but it's still irking me that I can't find this quote in GoF -- was it in OotP? I keep searching through the final chapters.
Re: Hmmm... Part 2sistermagpieAugust 30 2005, 13:57:47 UTC
Oh no, it's not your fault for mis-reading me. I did make it sound like I was saying Percy wasn't shown any affection or love at all. And I agree I don't think Ginny is revealing anything particularly bad. The family dynamics all seem pretty normal.
The quote about Percy not noticing Crouch's Imperio etc. is somewhere early in OotP, when Harry first gets to Grimmauld Place. I think it's when Ron tells the story about Percy's promotion and the fight and Harry privately thinks that Percy didn't seem so competent to him or something like that.
Ack, my apologies again for reading you wrong. It's just that you mentioned that the family that showed love for the pranking twins could not also show love for Percy's pompousness, but later gave an example in your second post about how Molly's affection for the twins is apparent despite her scolding of them. I kind of put these together, because Molly loves the twins in spite of their pranks and teasing, not because of it; and similarly to me, the Weasleys (pre-OotP) loved Percy in spite of his pompousness, not because of it.
I don't think the Penelope thing was Percy being ashamed of anything, though. He was over-sensitive about his family finding out and Fred and George probably making him look silly in front of Penelope. I don't think anybody in that situation is acting in a particularly bad way, and they all care about Ginny.
I didn't mean to imply that anyone was acting badly, or that Percy was ashamed of Penelope, but to indicate that it could be taken as such, especially by Penelope. So although I have seen accusation hurled at Ginny for revealing such a deep secret of Percy's to the twins of all people, the only thing I have ever faulted her for was for revealing a secret that wasn't really hers to reveal. It wasn't as though Ginny had spilled some dirty little secret of his that she should have kept out of consideration for his possible treatment at the hands of Fred and George, seeing as a) said treatment didn't even occur, and b) if he was serious about Penny, she would have had to meet his family eventually, anyway.
There's an inquiry and Harry thinks to himself that he doesn't think Percy did that good of a job since he failed to notice Crouch was under Imperius.
A little OT, but it's still irking me that I can't find this quote in GoF -- was it in OotP? I keep searching through the final chapters.
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The quote about Percy not noticing Crouch's Imperio etc. is somewhere early in OotP, when Harry first gets to Grimmauld Place. I think it's when Ron tells the story about Percy's promotion and the fight and Harry privately thinks that Percy didn't seem so competent to him or something like that.
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