Re: Hmmm... Part 2sistermagpieAugust 30 2005, 04:19:50 UTC
Well, Fred and George - I think I have a decent sense of humor but I wouldn't want them as brothers either. But family dynamics are complex.
Absolutely--like I think I alluded to below, I don't think you can separate out one thread or one person from this. I think there are times even pre-OotP when the twins have real resentment of Percy, like when he's held up as an example and their own interests are denigrated. Also the fact that there's two of them may mean that in their own way the twins, too, wind up being more extreme than they might be. Could one twin be less angry at Percy than the other, for instance? Or do they egg each other on to more extreme thinking? I definitely didn't mean to imply there's no love between the siblings because of this, though. I think there still is, which is why what's going on now seems like a believable family fight. Though it's kind of creepy that out of all those people nobody seems to be talking to Percy or he to them. (Unless Charlie and Bill are in some sort of contact.)
Of course, I also believe that Kreacher was telling the truth when he said Sirius broke his mother's heart and that the Blacks loved each other too.:-)
Really, it's not a question of whether or not Percy was capable of doing the job - it's about Fudge's questionable motives considering his row with and 'campaign' to descredit Dumbledore.
Oh yes--and I think this is where their not listening to each other comes in, because it's not that Arthur couldn't possibly have any point in saying Percy had been promoted for less than honest reasons. It's just that even the way Ron relates the story it sounds like a train wreck. Arthur seems like he really did, intentionally or not, cut Percy to the quick and humiliate him, and then Percy let him have it.
To me, it felt like Percy was barely a blip on Crouch's radar because if he was so impressed by Percy and Percy's job performance, the very least he could do was get his name right.
Oh yes, I agree. Percy clearly wasn't that important personally to Crouch. I just meant that Crouch's lack of interest in Percy didn't mean Percy wasn't doing the work he said he was doing. In a way I guess that made me feel sorry for Percy again--he seemed to really be working hard, but he still didn't have the personality to get himself noticed. It's an old story in business--the twins would probably have been on a first name basis with Crouch in the same amount of time because they're more charismatic.
Re: Hmmm... Part 2sistermagpieAugust 30 2005, 04:22:16 UTC
p.s. I forgot to mention, I don't know if it really played to me that Percy wasn't as important as he thought he was. I thought it was more that he wasn't as important as he wished he was. Underneath I thought he knew he was overlooked, so when he's embarassed it just made me cringe for him. When Crouch shows up Percy doesn't seem to assume an air of importance so much as fall all over Crouch like a fanboy.
Absolutely--like I think I alluded to below, I don't think you can separate out one thread or one person from this. I think there are times even pre-OotP when the twins have real resentment of Percy, like when he's held up as an example and their own interests are denigrated. Also the fact that there's two of them may mean that in their own way the twins, too, wind up being more extreme than they might be. Could one twin be less angry at Percy than the other, for instance? Or do they egg each other on to more extreme thinking? I definitely didn't mean to imply there's no love between the siblings because of this, though. I think there still is, which is why what's going on now seems like a believable family fight. Though it's kind of creepy that out of all those people nobody seems to be talking to Percy or he to them. (Unless Charlie and Bill are in some sort of contact.)
Of course, I also believe that Kreacher was telling the truth when he said Sirius broke his mother's heart and that the Blacks loved each other too.:-)
Really, it's not a question of whether or not Percy was capable of doing the job - it's about Fudge's questionable motives considering his row with and 'campaign' to descredit Dumbledore.
Oh yes--and I think this is where their not listening to each other comes in, because it's not that Arthur couldn't possibly have any point in saying Percy had been promoted for less than honest reasons. It's just that even the way Ron relates the story it sounds like a train wreck. Arthur seems like he really did, intentionally or not, cut Percy to the quick and humiliate him, and then Percy let him have it.
To me, it felt like Percy was barely a blip on Crouch's radar because if he was so impressed by Percy and Percy's job performance, the very least he could do was get his name right.
Oh yes, I agree. Percy clearly wasn't that important personally to Crouch. I just meant that Crouch's lack of interest in Percy didn't mean Percy wasn't doing the work he said he was doing. In a way I guess that made me feel sorry for Percy again--he seemed to really be working hard, but he still didn't have the personality to get himself noticed. It's an old story in business--the twins would probably have been on a first name basis with Crouch in the same amount of time because they're more charismatic.
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