littlelsilverbones knows how to talk. let me tell you.
read this. . . interesting exchange of opinions. I like the way he talks.
* I found this on deviant art and I don't claim this as my writing (just if anyone wonders if I wrote this all)
~GreenSprite Oct 11, 2008, 11:35:03 PM
This makes me want to cook you something nice. For, like, a year or so
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~LittleSilverBones Oct 12, 2008, 8:26:36 AM
Thank you for that caring sentiment,
dear one. How cute!
I was actually expecting
someone to say something on this subject,
so you were my co-creator in this, !
how about that.
But you need not be sad over this at all,
I'll soothe you a little;
- I'm actually quite happy these days,
and my little body is serving me well.
(Also notice that my hip was raised in this,
that bone does not look like that when I stand.)
Although at present I can't claim any more than average health,
I have indeed enjoyed
an extra ordinary sense of well being not too long ago,
and am trusting excellent vitality to return in its time.
Furthermore
isn't it nice that humans come in so many forms?
It's lovely to have variety,
would be boring if we all were same.
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~GreenSprite Oct 21, 2008, 4:37:27 AM
There's variety and variety, you certainly know what I mean, since you mentioned health.
It's ok, I've been watching your gallery for quite a long time and I'm aware of how you look like. I also respect people's right to look exactly as they want, even if they hurt themselves (though in this last case I'd prefer them not to). I only commented because it's the first time I get this feeling from a photo of a white person. It woke the same protection/pity feeling I get from the images of poor kids in Africa. Feels weird!
*afterthought* no, I got this feeling from photos of white people before. Concentration camps.
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~LittleSilverBones Nov 20, 2008, 9:59:05 PM
By variety I was indeed talking about the whole scale of human being
from some 17 to 700 kilos.
Some of all of those people suffer for different reasons,
some of all of those people suffer directly in relation to their body weight in some way.
I do not specifically wish ill health or anything undesirable for anyone,
but even as I hear of someone suffer in some unusual exotic circumstances
I will rather look at the uniqueness or beauty or interest or brand new feeling that may lie there,
and I find myself appreciating the experience of all of that life.
I don't believe in universal goods and bads,
and I don't care what other people choose as goods and bads in their own experience
if it does not directly concern mine.
As a whole,
I appreciate all of the variety of the human experience,
and I avoid my best to push against the problems in other people's experiences
because I do personally not believe that any problem can be solved by being dispensed with it
or declaring war against it.
The only reason I mentioned health is because
I personally have found myself relatively healthy most of the time, that's all.
Thank you for your insight;
and I have to admit I am a little happy I made you have an out of the ordinary feeling.
Much love.
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~GreenSprite Nov 22, 2008, 10:49:17 AM
Well see, I respectfully, but strongly disagree with you here. I don't want to see beauty or uniqueness in exotic suffering. While pain/difficulties can, and often do, strengthen one and enrich their experience, nobody really wants to hurt in the first place. People who say they do don't know what they're talking about.
You know, the Romans used to enjoy having people eaten alive by lions in front of them. "Finding beauty in exotic suffering" always has a bit of this, a certain perversity. Simply put, real pain sucks, and I'm not gonna derive pleasure from it like some parasite.
But do as you please, of course. I'm not here to preach, though expressing one's opinion online always seems a bit like this. And yes, you made me feel something interesting; it's even ok to thank you, since that's what you intended in the first place, right?
(sorry if this sounds too rough or agressive, English does that to my ideas)
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~LittleSilverBones Nov 22, 2008, 7:39:28 PM
I also respect your opinion very much,
and lately I'm thinking that it's okay to disagree any way,
I like it that people see/look at things in numerous ways.
I'll explain my premise a bit more,
why I feel what I feel,
I don't want you to have the same point of view as me,
but maybe there's a piece in this I can give you that more clearly points out where I'm coming from in the zoomed out appreciation of the vastness of life without judgement of its appropriateness or inappropriateness.
In my belief system, I believe that
what I push against I make bigger,
what I fight against the most I keep in my life most firmly,
what I focus on not liking most, I add unto;
- that's just my belief.
And therefore,
while I do not wish for anyone to suffer,
as a curiosity for me or otherwise;
when suffering is present and I observe it and I know
that it is not happening in a way that I have any control of,
it's happening to someone else (well okay, or myself),
in some situation in which I have no reasonable way of soothing it,
yet I am witnessing it through some format as simply an observer,
in those circumstances I do my best not to use it as my reason to feel bad,
I might feel compassion and hope it turns out well for them,
and meanwhile
it is what it is now and that is that,
so I would rather look for something that feels positive to me in it,
like interest or beauty or depth or a new idea that is born from it.
This, because I don't feel my feeling bad over it is of any
assistance there;
and I don't feel it is my place
to interfere in other's experiences any way or rank them as this or that.
I'm not standing in their shoes, I don't know everything that led to where they are standing,
I'm not familiar with the harmonics of that unique constellation.
Also there is that,
I have the belief that by looking at what seems positive or interesting or some kind of value in what seems negative or tragic,
I believe that I might actually in a small way add unto
the "solution" of the "problem",
instead of making it a bigger issue,
you know, in the ethers.
Looking for the beauty in my own dark hours was what
made them livable for me back then.
Once upon the time I had this one big issue in my life
that I felt powerless to struggle against for a long time, years,
it seemed I could never beat it.
So I lastly surrendered into it, I accepted it as final,
and stopped struggling.
Thinking that
it would never change for me as long as I lived and could
only possibly get worse,
I started thinking about the things
that were interesting and likable about it.
It became less of an issue,
and finally almost miraculously
it pretty much went away
and in current days is not really present an or a real issue any more.
That's why I do my best to avoid labelling things as negative. I some times do, but far less than most on numerous subjects.
This was long winded. Uhm.
And finally, I do really understand your opinion,
and I don't ask you to join in mine.
These are just some words to soften the impression you might have gotten.
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~GreenSprite Nov 29, 2008, 10:49:33 PM
Well yes, it all makes more sense now. I appreciate that you expressed it in detail.
It's an interesting point that you make, that you manage not to feel sad when somebody else is "in pain" (leaving aside the very subjective definition of pain, it's still almost impossible for me to do).
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* I found this on deviant art and I don't claim this as my writing (just if anyone wonders if I wrote this all)
~GreenSprite Oct 11, 2008, 11:35:03 PM
This makes me want to cook you something nice. For, like, a year or so
Reply
~LittleSilverBones Oct 12, 2008, 8:26:36 AM
Thank you for that caring sentiment,
dear one. How cute!
I was actually expecting
someone to say something on this subject,
so you were my co-creator in this, !
how about that.
But you need not be sad over this at all,
I'll soothe you a little;
- I'm actually quite happy these days,
and my little body is serving me well.
(Also notice that my hip was raised in this,
that bone does not look like that when I stand.)
Although at present I can't claim any more than average health,
I have indeed enjoyed
an extra ordinary sense of well being not too long ago,
and am trusting excellent vitality to return in its time.
Furthermore
isn't it nice that humans come in so many forms?
It's lovely to have variety,
would be boring if we all were same.
Reply
~GreenSprite Oct 21, 2008, 4:37:27 AM
There's variety and variety, you certainly know what I mean, since you mentioned health.
It's ok, I've been watching your gallery for quite a long time and I'm aware of how you look like. I also respect people's right to look exactly as they want, even if they hurt themselves (though in this last case I'd prefer them not to). I only commented because it's the first time I get this feeling from a photo of a white person. It woke the same protection/pity feeling I get from the images of poor kids in Africa. Feels weird!
*afterthought* no, I got this feeling from photos of white people before. Concentration camps.
Reply
~LittleSilverBones Nov 20, 2008, 9:59:05 PM
By variety I was indeed talking about the whole scale of human being
from some 17 to 700 kilos.
Some of all of those people suffer for different reasons,
some of all of those people suffer directly in relation to their body weight in some way.
I do not specifically wish ill health or anything undesirable for anyone,
but even as I hear of someone suffer in some unusual exotic circumstances
I will rather look at the uniqueness or beauty or interest or brand new feeling that may lie there,
and I find myself appreciating the experience of all of that life.
I don't believe in universal goods and bads,
and I don't care what other people choose as goods and bads in their own experience
if it does not directly concern mine.
As a whole,
I appreciate all of the variety of the human experience,
and I avoid my best to push against the problems in other people's experiences
because I do personally not believe that any problem can be solved by being dispensed with it
or declaring war against it.
The only reason I mentioned health is because
I personally have found myself relatively healthy most of the time, that's all.
Thank you for your insight;
and I have to admit I am a little happy I made you have an out of the ordinary feeling.
Much love.
Reply
~GreenSprite Nov 22, 2008, 10:49:17 AM
Well see, I respectfully, but strongly disagree with you here. I don't want to see beauty or uniqueness in exotic suffering. While pain/difficulties can, and often do, strengthen one and enrich their experience, nobody really wants to hurt in the first place. People who say they do don't know what they're talking about.
You know, the Romans used to enjoy having people eaten alive by lions in front of them. "Finding beauty in exotic suffering" always has a bit of this, a certain perversity. Simply put, real pain sucks, and I'm not gonna derive pleasure from it like some parasite.
But do as you please, of course. I'm not here to preach, though expressing one's opinion online always seems a bit like this. And yes, you made me feel something interesting; it's even ok to thank you, since that's what you intended in the first place, right?
(sorry if this sounds too rough or agressive, English does that to my ideas)
Reply
~LittleSilverBones Nov 22, 2008, 7:39:28 PM
I also respect your opinion very much,
and lately I'm thinking that it's okay to disagree any way,
I like it that people see/look at things in numerous ways.
I'll explain my premise a bit more,
why I feel what I feel,
I don't want you to have the same point of view as me,
but maybe there's a piece in this I can give you that more clearly points out where I'm coming from in the zoomed out appreciation of the vastness of life without judgement of its appropriateness or inappropriateness.
In my belief system, I believe that
what I push against I make bigger,
what I fight against the most I keep in my life most firmly,
what I focus on not liking most, I add unto;
- that's just my belief.
And therefore,
while I do not wish for anyone to suffer,
as a curiosity for me or otherwise;
when suffering is present and I observe it and I know
that it is not happening in a way that I have any control of,
it's happening to someone else (well okay, or myself),
in some situation in which I have no reasonable way of soothing it,
yet I am witnessing it through some format as simply an observer,
in those circumstances I do my best not to use it as my reason to feel bad,
I might feel compassion and hope it turns out well for them,
and meanwhile
it is what it is now and that is that,
so I would rather look for something that feels positive to me in it,
like interest or beauty or depth or a new idea that is born from it.
This, because I don't feel my feeling bad over it is of any
assistance there;
and I don't feel it is my place
to interfere in other's experiences any way or rank them as this or that.
I'm not standing in their shoes, I don't know everything that led to where they are standing,
I'm not familiar with the harmonics of that unique constellation.
Also there is that,
I have the belief that by looking at what seems positive or interesting or some kind of value in what seems negative or tragic,
I believe that I might actually in a small way add unto
the "solution" of the "problem",
instead of making it a bigger issue,
you know, in the ethers.
Looking for the beauty in my own dark hours was what
made them livable for me back then.
Once upon the time I had this one big issue in my life
that I felt powerless to struggle against for a long time, years,
it seemed I could never beat it.
So I lastly surrendered into it, I accepted it as final,
and stopped struggling.
Thinking that
it would never change for me as long as I lived and could
only possibly get worse,
I started thinking about the things
that were interesting and likable about it.
It became less of an issue,
and finally almost miraculously
it pretty much went away
and in current days is not really present an or a real issue any more.
That's why I do my best to avoid labelling things as negative. I some times do, but far less than most on numerous subjects.
This was long winded. Uhm.
And finally, I do really understand your opinion,
and I don't ask you to join in mine.
These are just some words to soften the impression you might have gotten.
Reply
~GreenSprite Nov 29, 2008, 10:49:33 PM
Well yes, it all makes more sense now. I appreciate that you expressed it in detail.
It's an interesting point that you make, that you manage not to feel sad when somebody else is "in pain" (leaving aside the very subjective definition of pain, it's still almost impossible for me to do).
Reply