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Sep 21, 2007 00:58

she (12:38:54 AM): i was instantly jealous of my teacher when he told me a little story ( Read more... )

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Re: "she" hope_is_blind October 4 2007, 04:54:37 UTC
a) I didn't take anything out of context.

b) I'm glad you think I'm sophisticated.

c) Reluctantly I will restate the fact that I am more than happy to have been out of a relationship for a very long time now, and realize that looking for one is pretty useless, especially since I've seen how people in dysfunctional relationships are a lot more lonely than I am. (I'm not pointing any fingers) Furthermore, you'd like to say that you win this argument because you are "in love" and "less lonely than I am". One of those is certainly not true, since I can't think of a time that I've complained about my "loneliness" to you. The other remains in question, but for the sake of spiting me, you could very simply assert to me that it's true. Or perhaps you have finally decided in your mind that it is true, which is a good thing if you really feel that way and not if it is a move out of desperation that you find to be integral in your increasingly difficult struggle to stay sane, since realizing what is to be a reality in the long term is really a better method in order that you don't lose faith in any feeling that you decide to put faith in in a move of rashness. All the same, my being lonely would be a fundamental err on my part if I were to voluntarily live a lifestyle devoid of adolescent lust and scouring my surroundings for attention knowing that, in the sense of having a temporary companion for whom I must reconstruct my very being in many senses, I am clearly at a loss, and therefore a craving for such "extensions of the self" would leave me far from satisfied. Therefore, I have chosen a life where I expect not to be swayed by some lonely girl looking for attention, and since no such lonely girl seems to be coming my way any time soon (since they could choose anyone, and there are plenty of guys out there willing to "play the game), then it is all the better for me. I have friends to chat or have a drink with. I can't even think of the last time I touched another human being, other than hugging my mom last time she left (a month ago?) or the times on the bus or subway when it is impossible not to be touching another human being, but since I'm no frotteur, I get no pleasure out of those occasions. I have come to except the fact that I have been dealt all the wrong cards when it comes to "love", and since I am not the type to put effort into something that shouldn't involve effort, I have learned to love myself above all, because the only thing in the world I could ever possibly trust is myself. Even if one day the sun didn't rise, I would still have one thing that I could depend on. Rather than the sun not rising and a lover deserting me, in order to add insult to injury, or perhaps a lover dying, or being shipped away to fight in a she doesn't believe in, I think I will settle for myself in order to cut all future losses. Thinking about all the losses I have cut in the past year makes me realize how many more opportunities I have seized to live, unhindered by such forces as I cannot control. In conclusion, it would be very surprising to me, if there was developed a device to accurately gauge a person's loneliness (using criteria adopted from the conventional definition) and the two of us were to be tested by this advice, that I would turn out to be more lonely than you. Therefore, it is completely unnecessary to exaggerate your state of loved-ness for the purpose of trying to prove me wrong, outdo me, make me jealous, or what have you. Pushing your loved-ness in my face does nothing more than convince me that you are that desperate to prove "how in love you are". It would be much easier to love yourself I think.

d) You said you never read this. That's one way to figure out that you really do.

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Re: "she" hope_is_blind October 4 2007, 22:41:11 UTC
You always remark about how I'm trying to prove to you that I love someone. I'm not trying to prove it or force it. Yes, right now I have a significant other. I care for him, he cares for me. We have a good time together, and when he's gone, I miss him. So I stay with him, because I care for him. This could possibly be love, I'm not really sure what love is, neither are you. I just know that I enjoy his companionship, so I stay with him. I don't mind if you fault me for that.. but I'm not trying to prove how madly in love I am. I'll be the first to admit, that I'm not madly in love with him.. or anyone. I prefer to stay sane and grounded. Plus, I wouldn't like to say I win this argument because I say I'm in love. How lame do you think I am? That is no basis for a good rebuttal. I don't actually recall ever trying to force my loved-ness onto you. If you accidentally misconstrued my words, then I apologize, that must have been agonizing to listen to such a misinterpretation.

Yaddah, yaddah.. I don't care to argue or debate over this. I don't feel like either one of us is accomplishing anything. It's going on about four months since I have come in some physical contact with another human being. I have had the same time to cut my losses as you have, and I've done many a things. I could definitely live without adolescent lust, as you so nicely put it. My four months of celibacy whether my choice or not, should at least say something for my character. I'll agree with you, I'm immature, but I'm not as immature as you take me for. I do have control over myself. I do think things through and I don't just act on frivolous impulses.

I'm glad you've learned to love yourself.

Oh, and finally, I also don't recall when I said I didn't read this. I do however, remember telling you to update at one point. Is this another delusional conversation that we both came out of with different information?

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Re: "she" hope_is_blind October 5 2007, 00:18:25 UTC
And I don't remember (or see) where I typed that you are immature. Touché?

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Re: "she" hope_is_blind October 5 2007, 04:16:21 UTC
Well, your friend did say I didn't have a mature outlook, and in the past you've told me I wasn't mature.

But yes, touche.

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