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sparrow_lately October 6 2012, 20:11:05 UTC
Or just explain women to me.

You sound like meeeeee, lol. Actually, I agree with literally everything you just said. Every writer I've ever truly admired, save we'll say Harper Lee and a few poets, is male.

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honeylocusttree October 6 2012, 20:20:36 UTC
So it's not just me, then?

I occasionally watch videos by JennaMarbles and I spend most of it going 'well I'm a girl and I don't think or care about any of that stuff. You are an alien.' But I guess that's how most girls are. And it's weird. And tedious. And holds no appeal.

I need to figure out if there are any female writers I've read without being forced to. I mean I enjoyed The Color Purple...but that was for school. And I liked Black Beauty...when I was 8. And...um. What else?

*flails*

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sparrow_lately October 6 2012, 20:41:15 UTC
Oh, yes, okay, amending myself, Alice Walker is a genius.

And I feel like there are a lot of talented, provocative female writers who do kid/YA lit--Lois Lowry jumps to mind.

Blargh re: Jenna Marbles and What Girls Care About (TM). I'd write a more coherent comment but I am so feverish and out of it it's a wonder I'm typing.

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honeylocusttree October 6 2012, 21:06:56 UTC
Yeah, her whole thing is...makeup! Partying! More makeup and partying and also...dogs or something! It's weird. And she's smart, clearly. But I guess I'm assuming she's sort of an example of what *average* females are like. And I...don't get it.

I read some kid's lit by women, I'm sure. But even then my faves were dudes. I did read Wrinkle In Time, but didn't care for it. Still, that's sci fi. So I dunno.

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sparrow_lately October 6 2012, 21:15:51 UTC
I mean, I'm a girl who has never understood girls (and when my mother rolls her eyes at this, I remind her that she gave me a boy's name, so she made her bed and she can lie in it), but sometimes I get the distinct impression Jenna Marbles is punching feminism in the face and calling it a celebration of womanhood. And normally I cringe at anybody who even uses the word "feminism" in casual conversation (ultra-liberal arts schools will do that to ya), but seriously.

I'm whacking myself on the head because I forgot about Virginia Woolf, one of my all time favorite writers, up above, but the point does stand--she's up there by herself with a whole lot of men, both in terms of the writers I really enjoy/admire and the writers I've devoted a lot of my time--both academic and otherwise--to in the last several years.

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honeylocusttree October 6 2012, 22:21:59 UTC
I don't know what the hell JM is doing, to me she's just really really weird. I feel like there must be more going on underneath the surface...right? I mean there would have to be.

A lot of my favorite musicians and poets are old men, too. So not only do I tend to read guys, I read guys over 50. I think I require a certain amount of grizzled cynicism in my artists.

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sparrow_lately October 7 2012, 04:00:55 UTC
I think I require a certain amount of grizzled cynicism in my artists.

Right? Like if you've never neglected shaving in favor of day drinking, what right to you have to tell me about the world? :P

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honeylocusttree October 7 2012, 04:21:22 UTC
I have no idea where that all comes from, either. And I know you're a Tom Waits *and* a Leonard Cohen fan, so you might actually be me.

What are your thoughts on Johnny Cash?

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sparrow_lately October 7 2012, 04:33:12 UTC
Few writers period have had as profound an impact on me as Leonard Cohen did. And I still remember the first time I heard Tom Waits--it was "Heartattack and Vine," and I was fifteen, and my mind was blown.

I like Johnny Cash but I don't love him the way I do Cohen and Waits.

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