2) God is All-wise/All-knowing

[homoviator]

If this is so, He knows the present and future. Then he also knows the present good and present evil as well as the future good and future evil. Then is it not possible that God would tolerate horrible things like starvation because he foresees that in the long run that more people will be better and happier than if he miraculously intervened?

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Re: Things that make you Ouch

[akui_]

we can be as perfectly evolved as we want, it's nature that's changing to try to rid itself of the virus that is man. there have been theories put forth by quite a few smarty men (if you really want a list of names i'll try to find one. but i'm not big on research) that there have been a number of incredibly catastrophic events take place in our history, so catastrophic that they essentially set our evolution back to zero. the dinosaurs disappearing is thought to be the last event of this kind. boils down to earth gets pissed off at all the crap going down and changes to try and level the playing field. if that doesn't work then it's time to push the reset button. this theory also states that we've come just as far as we have this time around, even further really and that's where all these weird "natural" monuments have come from (stone henge, the pyramids etc). they're just leftovers from when we were here last time.

as for george carlin i think he's brilliant. his serious humor revolves around all the issues that i have problems with in christianity.

and my point with that sentence you quoted was that either way you look at it when we figure something out either 1) mother nature goes "fuck you, take this" or 2) god goes "well they sure have learned a lot about my most masterful work, the human body.. let's see what they can do with this" depending on your point of view. i choose to believe that we've done more than enough damage to the earth to make it pissed off and make it try to get rid of us than that there is this god who keeps testing us or whatever he's doing with all this crap that's coming out of nature.

Re: Things that make you Ouch

[homoviator]

I dont think God tests us in that manner, but rather the catastrophes we face (both global and personal) are results of our sin. When we try to rely solely on ourselves and live by our own rules (therefore living in sin), the sin manifests into diseases and disasters. Pretty much, to me they're reminders that man isnt good enough by themselves.

The funny thing i find with George Carlin is that if i didnt believe in God i think i would believe the same things he does. It makes me wonder if he believed in God, how much like me might he have become.