un informed 13 year old?foxynattyJune 22 2005, 00:15:38 UTC
oh Erin,
I don't know what elementary school you went to darling, but back in my little home town east of Ottawa, people were having sex in the 7th grade, while me and my friends watched porn and read/looked at dirty magazines...
That was years ago, can you imagine how "informed" 13 year old are today? Some of them know more than all of us combined. We are diluding ourselves if we portray 13 year olds as wide eyed and innocent.
The dude had intercourse with a dog, it is debatable if the "dude" knew more...he knew more stupid shit, yes.
I think it needs to be a 5 year difference to be a statutory rape or below sixteen, something or another.
She probably didn't know any better, but the dude should not be penalized b/c he sort of manipulated a 13 year old...if that were the case, a lot and I mean a lot of dudes and gals would have been charged with a crime...regardless of age.
He should be prosecuted for huring the dog and for the 3 year old, but why penalize him for another offense...don't throw out the baby with the bath water dude.
Just because you think he's scum (he probably is) and should be sent to jail forever, doesn't mean he should.
I think i'd make a much better defense attorney than a Crown attorney, not because I care for the criminals (ok maybe, I did pick Karla Hamolka as my top three people to play a round of golf with...along with Chris Rock and Pope Benny)... meh it's all gray baby, except for the dog and 3 year old...that's just pure black.
Re: un informed 13 year old?foleyolioJune 22 2005, 03:16:44 UTC
well, i understand what you are saying. but i also have to disagree.
i went to the same type of school that you did and in no way was i sheltered from any of this. that does not mean however that i was informed.
maybe i don't mean uninformed but misinformed. and i'm not going to get into crazy details on this (because this is the internet and anyone can read it -- even though few of you actually know me) but i was 'seduced' by someone older when i was 13. i say seduced because i lied to him and told him i was older and was what i believed to be terribly in love with him. however, he was 19 and had absolutely no right to take any sexual interest in me. but he did. and although this is me, and my situation, which does not make it the same as the one with this young man i understand perfectly well what it feels like to be that girl and to think you know what you are doing and saying and agreeing to and then while it is happening it does not seem or feel like what you thought you consented to. but, it's too far gone to stop it at that point. I don't think it is grey. That man, if i can call him that, took advantage of me. and again, i know it may not be the same but i have to admit a bias on this. that sexual encouter was one to change the direction of my life and landed me in a situation that no 13 year old should ever be in and i had to make some very grown up, adult decisions that i never should have had to make in the first place. there, i said it -- i'm biased.
there is something wrong with a 17 year old who has to fuck a 13 year old. 13 year olds are sexual to other 13 year olds. when you get over 16 it just gets creepy.
I don't know what elementary school you went to darling, but back in my little home town east of Ottawa, people were having sex in the 7th grade, while me and my friends watched porn and read/looked at dirty magazines...
That was years ago, can you imagine how "informed" 13 year old are today? Some of them know more than all of us combined. We are diluding ourselves if we portray 13 year olds as wide eyed and innocent.
The dude had intercourse with a dog, it is debatable if the "dude" knew more...he knew more stupid shit, yes.
I think it needs to be a 5 year difference to be a statutory rape or below sixteen, something or another.
She probably didn't know any better, but the dude should not be penalized b/c he sort of manipulated a 13 year old...if that were the case, a lot and I mean a lot of dudes and gals would have been charged with a crime...regardless of age.
He should be prosecuted for huring the dog and for the 3 year old, but why penalize him for another offense...don't throw out the baby with the bath water dude.
Just because you think he's scum (he probably is) and should be sent to jail forever, doesn't mean he should.
I think i'd make a much better defense attorney than a Crown attorney, not because I care for the criminals (ok maybe, I did pick Karla Hamolka as my top three people to play a round of golf with...along with Chris Rock and Pope Benny)...
meh
it's all gray baby, except for the dog and 3 year old...that's just pure black.
love ya erin,
Natty
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i went to the same type of school that you did and in no way was i sheltered from any of this. that does not mean however that i was informed.
maybe i don't mean uninformed but misinformed. and i'm not going to get into crazy details on this (because this is the internet and anyone can read it -- even though few of you actually know me) but i was 'seduced' by someone older when i was 13. i say seduced because i lied to him and told him i was older and was what i believed to be terribly in love with him. however, he was 19 and had absolutely no right to take any sexual interest in me. but he did. and although this is me, and my situation, which does not make it the same as the one with this young man i understand perfectly well what it feels like to be that girl and to think you know what you are doing and saying and agreeing to and then while it is happening it does not seem or feel like what you thought you consented to. but, it's too far gone to stop it at that point. I don't think it is grey. That man, if i can call him that, took advantage of me. and again, i know it may not be the same but i have to admit a bias on this. that sexual encouter was one to change the direction of my life and landed me in a situation that no 13 year old should ever be in and i had to make some very grown up, adult decisions that i never should have had to make in the first place. there, i said it -- i'm biased.
there is something wrong with a 17 year old who has to fuck a 13 year old. 13 year olds are sexual to other 13 year olds. when you get over 16 it just gets creepy.
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