I have a perfectly functional server that kicks me every morning with an "I'm an October version and my lifegem is flashing" warning. Yet the newer versions have the shafted desktop, so it ain't going forwards. I might yet _downgrade_ this to the previous LTS, just to get rid of the dialogs.
I use vanilla Ubuntu with LXDE and it's fine. MY problem is that when I upgraded to 12.04 LTS, it blew up one of my fave game programs. They just plain stopped allowing me to use the fantastic GUI frontend that MAME used to have (GXMAME), and replaced it with a really shitty text-based one... apparently simply because GXMAME is "old". Oh and also a lot of games no longer work on it. And I'm convinced the computer's slower.
Most OS programmers should be taken out and shot. I mean that's a foul worthy of Apple at their worst. If I want to run a certain program, I should bloody well be allowed to do it. What the hell kind of nightmare Big Brother OS goes around uninstalling random programs it doesn't like - without even asking first?
I just use the fallback gnome because I can't stick Unity -- so I run 12.10 without Unity. However, gnome 3.8 is introducing "Classic mode" as an alternative to all that Unity crap. Hopefully 3.8 will make it into Ubuntu 13.10.
Urm... I kind of see what you mean in a twisted way. Puppet is supposed to be flexible -- but it makes a lot of demands for relatively modern libraries to install (unless you're willing to settle for a super old version -- which, let's face it, waht's the point?). Flexibility isn't much to do with it. It's always going to be a pain to install software that requires versions 5.7 and 3.2 on an OS which by default provides 4.3 and 0.9 because it's from a few years previously.
Ah... you're right. I think of it only in terms of cloud because that's the only reason I'm interested in it -- if it's doing stuff with actual metal that would be a huge pain. Sorry, my understanding of these things is actually pretty limited and context specific.
Hm... well, yes. And indeed no. If there's a set of terrible old boxes lying about it mostly seems to be because getting them into a state where they'd keep working was such a huge effort that it was easiest to leave them very alone. Which is, I think, more or less what's wrong with hand-tended servers. "Oh you can't touch that it's the [mumble] box and $business-unit throw a massive strop if they think someone's been playing." (Which actually means "$business-unit don't know anything about the H/W or OS, and if their favourite software in all the world goes funny then SOMEONE'S BROKEN SOMETHING.")
This is a shit way of managing kit.
Uptime-manship is also a sign of hand-tended servers. And unpatched ones.
Meanwhile, when the box falls off the end of any sort of maintenance, $business-unit won't have any of it and demand that everything still works like it did in the nineties.
When your maintenance partner is eBay, this is probably a Bad Thing.
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I have a perfectly functional server that kicks me every morning with an "I'm an October version and my lifegem is flashing" warning. Yet the newer versions have the shafted desktop, so it ain't going forwards. I might yet _downgrade_ this to the previous LTS, just to get rid of the dialogs.
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Most OS programmers should be taken out and shot. I mean that's a foul worthy of Apple at their worst. If I want to run a certain program, I should bloody well be allowed to do it. What the hell kind of nightmare Big Brother OS goes around uninstalling random programs it doesn't like - without even asking first?
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(Presume by "shafted desktop" you mean Unity.)
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This is a shit way of managing kit.
Uptime-manship is also a sign of hand-tended servers. And unpatched ones.
Meanwhile, when the box falls off the end of any sort of maintenance, $business-unit won't have any of it and demand that everything still works like it did in the nineties.
When your maintenance partner is eBay, this is probably a Bad Thing.
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