Go away, Mr Moffat.

Jun 08, 2008 15:45

 I'm supposed to be learning 23 lyrical ballads, so, clearly, I am bitching about DW instead.

OK. When the episode aired, I didn't have much problem with River, really. I didn't love her, but I didn't hate her - I was sort of settled on the disliking side of indifference.

My problems with this episode are more like it falls apart when you think about ( Read more... )

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madhowan June 8 2008, 15:23:05 UTC
Thank you!
I just finished watching and was trying to work out why River and the Doctor didn't work, and this is it.

lives happily ever after with clone kids and her team members, one of whom is suddenly beautified again and is liked despite the fact they all hated her before, without ever seeing the man she loves again, with NO PROBLEM? I'm very prone to talking at the screen, but saying "oh, you're kidding," - now with extra added expletives - at the telly twice in an episode never happens. This was the first part. (Clicking his fingers to open the TARDIS was the second.) And made worse by the thought that she'd probably have her own Doctor there.

There's far too much to agree with here without ranting on forever, so I'll say, this -
So, you know, sorry River, but I think you just doomed your own relationship - made me laugh quite a bit. Yeah okay, I didn't like her ( ... )

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hippiebanana132 June 8 2008, 15:25:33 UTC
Yeah, it kinda worked on the surface, didn't it? The basic plot was clever and sad and had the potential to be terrifying, but Moffat really messed it up.

And that makes me worry, because RTD sends out the episode briefs, so the whole basic plot was probably largely his idea anyway.

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madhowan June 8 2008, 15:36:55 UTC
Oh, exactly! I got more involved in this part - more so than the first - even cried at the end, but none of that was for River, and since she was such a large part, the fact that she didn't work made the whole thing not work.
I feel like these would have been great if she wasn't in them. Donna's story was so sad (that's where the crying was), and the acting was really good, it was just that the characters didn't work together.

Like you said last week though, perhaps he just likes his own characters better, so when he gets to write them all they'll be fantastic characters.
Or he could just bring back Sally Sparrow?

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hippiebanana132 June 8 2008, 15:44:41 UTC
Or he could just bring back Sally Sparrow? - I would so go for that, as long as he didn't kill her awesome with his Moffatisms.

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madhowan June 8 2008, 16:03:01 UTC
Haha, is it possible?
I really should give him the benefit of the doubt, because I've loved everything else of his that I've seen. Just after reading things that people have been saying about him, I don't know!

Oh, and on a completely random note, do you notice how people just seem to be missing each other all the time? The Doctor and Donna, in the first episode, Rose, whenever she's popped up, then Donna and her real/ not real husband. But then, they're using plenty of stuff again this season ...

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hippiebanana132 June 8 2008, 16:31:34 UTC
Ooh, you know, I hadn't noticed that! Ooer. That could be sad. =(

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