I like to watch the American public talk about things...

[hipgunslinger]

Perhaps the most frustratingly amusing thing about the entire global warming "debate" that seems to rage in the world these days is that the argument seems to largely be waged on the plain of ideas

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[liberpolly]

so what conclusion did you reach on global warming?

[hipgunslinger]

I'm honestly much more appreciative of Morrison's opinion that I was several months ago. The stolen "climategate" e-mails were a classic example of how the public and scientific research seem to be incapable of actually having a dialogue at the moment. Several months after the fact I've read some articles written by people of genuine stature and repute assuring me as a reader that the data released in the climategate e-mails was not uncommon to be discarded in the presentation of scientific data, and in the aforementioned Morrison article, they damn well should have INCLUDED that information in the published material as people can't be expected to shrug off unincluded material as being 'necessary to the scientific process

[liberpolly]

> Several months after the fact I've read some articles written by people of genuine stature and repute assuring me as a reader that the data released in the climategate e-mails was not uncommon to be discarded in the presentation of scientific data

[hipgunslinger]

Oh, I agree entirely on the nuclear reactor front... I'm just not sure I trust politicians to move quickly enough when (or indeed if) it becomes a problem

[liberpolly]

but it's not "every academy of sciences in the USA", it's basically 4 small teams of climatologists worldwide. it's a very small world, like in every specialized science. matematicians, phisicists, and other hard science people expressed their dismay at the horrible state of climatology as science.

i understand and share your frustration, though. but what to expect when there are literally trillions of dollars at stake, on both sides?

[hipgunslinger]

There's not an international scientific organization that disputes climate change (though by my readings there's about half a dozen that take the position of it not necessarily being anthropogenic) at the time of me writing this.
But you're right, all in all it comes right down to the frustration, which is why I decided to write the journal entry in the first place. I appreciate your discourse in the matter immensely. An author you may not be familiar with who has been an amazing interest to me in the matter is Bjorn Lomborg. His book "Cool it" was a swift and level headed presentation.