1. Severus Snape - Innately good or innately evil? Self motivated or really Dumbledore's man?
2. You just got a Howler. Who's it from, and what'd you do? Was it a mistake?
3. What house do you think is your "primary" house? To me, you sound entirely Ravenclaw in both your original AND appeals app. Why is this wrong? Convince me, REALLY convince me, of your "primary" house. What changes will you feel being sorted "correctly?"
4. What's the one thing you fall back on when everything else falls apart? (This can be anything, your dog, a band, a book, a motto, etc.)
1. Severus Snape - Innately good or innately evil? Self motivated or really Dumbledore's man?
I don't think anyone is innately good or innately evil. I think he made his decisions, even though they were bad ones, and made the best he could of what happened afterward. I like to think that he was self-motivated, although his emotions and motivations were largely manipulated by Dumbledore. So I suppose I could say, I think he was manipulated into being Dumbledore's man, which is something that he as a self-motivated man would not have been if it hadn't been for the disaster with Lily.
2. You just got a Howler. Who's it from, and what'd you do? Was it a mistake?I really can't imagine myself getting a Howler. A letter that screams your private business to the room around you is not only not classy (airing your private business to people who really don't need to know), but not effective, at least for me. Honestly, if I got one, it wouldn't be from someone I really care about, because 1) I can't imagine myself doing anything to earn one,
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3. What house do you think is your "primary" house? To me, you sound entirely Ravenclaw in both your original AND appeals app. Why is this wrong? Convince me, REALLY convince me, of your "primary" house. What changes will you feel being sorted "correctly?"
It might say something about my pride that it irks me a little to be called "entirely Ravenclaw". Not that being a Ravenclaw is a bad thing, and I can tell why I come across that way -- being a student, I'm so used to presenting myself that way that it's practically habit -- but it is not the only side to my personality, and not (to me) the most important one. But the Ravenclaw side of me has been challenged to prove exactly how much of my personality it encompasses -- or is it my Slytherin side that wants you to prove to you that I'm better than the impression you've gotten? -- so here is your proof
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Slytherins are idealists, perfectionists, elitists, and cynics. They are self-motivated, sly, manipulative and subtle. I've mentioned my idealism and perfectionism already in this application, as well as self-motivation, and addressed manipulation. As for subtlety -- well, it's not just flying under the radar and being understated, though I've done a lot of that for most of my life. It's about knowing when to be understated and when to be something else entirely. School has required me to be understated, flying under the radar and endearing myself to my professors as a simple student who just wants to learn -- professors who, I might add, would not have appreciated it if I kissed their respective asses, which I knew from the get-go (and when I do ask for favors from them, like letters of recommendations, I like to repay my debts). But I'm getting ready to market myself to the world after college, and I've got a bunch of tricks up my sleeve. I can lead, I can follow, I can work efficiently, I can be a social butterfly. It's entirely
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Wow, thank you for taking the time to write such verbose answers. I'm currently torn because I definitely see what you're saying, but the way you went about this and the way you think through these answers are causing me a bit of strife in voting.
Would you write between 250-500 words convincing me to change you to a Slytherin, kind of like a closing argument or a closing paragraph, highlighting the major/strongest points you want me to take away from your appeal. Make it concise, and if you want to do bullet points I won't argue.
Idealism/perfectionism/cynicism: I have an ideal, and that is the perfection of the system to my satisfaction. I have the perfectionist drive to do it, and I know the system well enough to know exactly how much needs improving, which makes me a cynic.
Manipulation: I like being liked, and I know how to make people like me. I even know how to get along with people I despise. I don't usually see much need to make people do things for me (since I would do it better), but I know how to do that, too.
Moral values: I am not amoral, but I have no problem with cheating or bending the rules a bit to suit my needs. And I make sure no one knows I'm doing it unless I outright admit to it (and then only for the purposes of getting what I want, which is a ticket to the snake pit).
Ambition: I love the feeling of achieving one of my goals. It can make me a bit impatient (can I graduate now and move on, please?) but I don't back down from something that really matters. I want a career that challenges me and gives me
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Just to be nitpicky, because I have a reputation to uphold:
I am not amoral, but I have no problem with cheating or bending the rules a bit to suit my needs.
Words are a Slytherin tool, too. They can be used to win arguments, to get your way, to talk your way out of a sticky situation, or any endless number of things.
It takes a strong sense of self to pretend to be someone else. I keep my own interests at heart, and I won't sacrifice myself for anything if it doesn't serve my purposes.
I put all of my energy into the things that matter, and am for the most part very apathetic about everything else.
These are, to me, Gryffindor arguments. In 500 words or less, tell me why Slytherins and Gryffindors can seem similar and identify the key element that makes bold Slytherins different even if they have the same end goals, which can either be noble or "evil."
(yes, I'm picking on you, but really, I want to sort you properly in my brain XD)
I don't mind you being nitpicky, but be warned, you're making me wordy again. XD
I see a distinct difference between the two houses. Gryffindors see things in terms of right and wrong, and even if they do something wrong, it doesn't matter as long as it is for what is right (see Harry using Unforgiveables). A Slytherin would do something like that because it needed to be done, and feel no need to justify it morally. Gryffindors either break or follow rules, with no middle ground -- a Slytherin is more likely to bend rules to make the rules work for them, when possible, and only break them completely when absolutely necessary.
Gryffindors have a very strong sense of morality, whether it fits with society's ideas or not. They don't just put their resources into a fight, but put far more of themselves into it than a Slytherin would. To a Gryffindor, the cause is often greater than the self, and there are some things worth dying for -- as well as some things that they would rather die than see themselves become, like a person that they
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Hermione, in trying to get other to join her in S.P.E.W. used words as a tool. I think a Gryffindor, in an effort to get people involved in their "causes," would use words to inspire. Just food for thought.
Tell me, can Gryffindors be friends with Slytherins? Can they work together towards a common goal, or are they always like oil and water? You've explained their rivalries -- what are their similarities that make them potential allies? Not all Slytherins hate Gryffindors, do they? And contrary to popular belief, the answer to this question is telling for me.
Hmm. I don't remember exactly what she said, but I seem to remember that it followed the "trying to get the truth out there" method, rather than what we see in politics a lot, where anything can seem like the truth if you choose the right words. Actually, I would think the part where she didn't tell anyone the whole truth about signing up for the DA (that the paper was charmed to show who they were if they betrayed them) more of a Slytherin way of using words, but that's not really the point. Yes, they use words to inspire, to get people involved. That's not always the same thing as using words to get your way
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Gryffindors will use words to get their way when their way and their cause intersect, IMO, and the cause can be outside the realm of altruism (though I'm not sure a Gryff would admit that it is). Anyway, I should hope there are Gryffindor wordsmiths out there. For example, HiH's Gryffindor House has *four* lawyers (though Gryff lawyers/law students are rarities indeed)!
I digress.
You have answered the questions in a way that I feel more comfortable sorting you, but I don't think you were necessarily improperly sorted the first time. This is just one of those times I think you could benefit from either house, which is why I'm pushing you to make me pick one. XD
That's essentially what I was attempting to say. And that the difference is that Slytherins would count words as a tool in almost any situation, even if it has nothing to do with their cause. Anytime they need a tool, really. XD
I should say that I think it's a good thing for a Gryffindor to know how to use words to suit them, I think it's a good thing for anyone to know how to do that. It's an interesting difference between Claws and Slyths, too, since a Claw would use words to show the facts more often than actually serve any purpose other than knowledge and communication. :)
That's essentially why I appealed. I think I could fit into any house in some way (although I haven't ever been sorted into Gryffindor) but I think I'd get more use out of Slytherin, personally. It's up to you as judges in the end, though, I've just tried to make my case.
2. You just got a Howler. Who's it from, and what'd you do? Was it a mistake?
3. What house do you think is your "primary" house? To me, you sound entirely Ravenclaw in both your original AND appeals app. Why is this wrong? Convince me, REALLY convince me, of your "primary" house. What changes will you feel being sorted "correctly?"
4. What's the one thing you fall back on when everything else falls apart? (This can be anything, your dog, a band, a book, a motto, etc.)
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I don't think anyone is innately good or innately evil. I think he made his decisions, even though they were bad ones, and made the best he could of what happened afterward. I like to think that he was self-motivated, although his emotions and motivations were largely manipulated by Dumbledore. So I suppose I could say, I think he was manipulated into being Dumbledore's man, which is something that he as a self-motivated man would not have been if it hadn't been for the disaster with Lily.
2. You just got a Howler. Who's it from, and what'd you do? Was it a mistake?I really can't imagine myself getting a Howler. A letter that screams your private business to the room around you is not only not classy (airing your private business to people who really don't need to know), but not effective, at least for me. Honestly, if I got one, it wouldn't be from someone I really care about, because 1) I can't imagine myself doing anything to earn one, ( ... )
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It might say something about my pride that it irks me a little to be called "entirely Ravenclaw". Not that being a Ravenclaw is a bad thing, and I can tell why I come across that way -- being a student, I'm so used to presenting myself that way that it's practically habit -- but it is not the only side to my personality, and not (to me) the most important one. But the Ravenclaw side of me has been challenged to prove exactly how much of my personality it encompasses -- or is it my Slytherin side that wants you to prove to you that I'm better than the impression you've gotten? -- so here is your proof ( ... )
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Would you write between 250-500 words convincing me to change you to a Slytherin, kind of like a closing argument or a closing paragraph, highlighting the major/strongest points you want me to take away from your appeal. Make it concise, and if you want to do bullet points I won't argue.
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I am not amoral, but I have no problem with cheating or bending the rules a bit to suit my needs.
Words are a Slytherin tool, too. They can be used to win arguments, to get your way, to talk your way out of a sticky situation, or any endless number of things.
It takes a strong sense of self to pretend to be someone else. I keep my own interests at heart, and I won't sacrifice myself for anything if it doesn't serve my purposes.
I put all of my energy into the things that matter, and am for the most part very apathetic about everything else.
These are, to me, Gryffindor arguments. In 500 words or less, tell me why Slytherins and Gryffindors can seem similar and identify the key element that makes bold Slytherins different even if they have the same end goals, which can either be noble or "evil."
(yes, I'm picking on you, but really, I want to sort you properly in my brain XD)
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I see a distinct difference between the two houses. Gryffindors see things in terms of right and wrong, and even if they do something wrong, it doesn't matter as long as it is for what is right (see Harry using Unforgiveables). A Slytherin would do something like that because it needed to be done, and feel no need to justify it morally. Gryffindors either break or follow rules, with no middle ground -- a Slytherin is more likely to bend rules to make the rules work for them, when possible, and only break them completely when absolutely necessary.
Gryffindors have a very strong sense of morality, whether it fits with society's ideas or not. They don't just put their resources into a fight, but put far more of themselves into it than a Slytherin would. To a Gryffindor, the cause is often greater than the self, and there are some things worth dying for -- as well as some things that they would rather die than see themselves become, like a person that they ( ... )
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Tell me, can Gryffindors be friends with Slytherins? Can they work together towards a common goal, or are they always like oil and water? You've explained their rivalries -- what are their similarities that make them potential allies? Not all Slytherins hate Gryffindors, do they? And contrary to popular belief, the answer to this question is telling for me.
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I digress.
You have answered the questions in a way that I feel more comfortable sorting you, but I don't think you were necessarily improperly sorted the first time. This is just one of those times I think you could benefit from either house, which is why I'm pushing you to make me pick one. XD
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I should say that I think it's a good thing for a Gryffindor to know how to use words to suit them, I think it's a good thing for anyone to know how to do that. It's an interesting difference between Claws and Slyths, too, since a Claw would use words to show the facts more often than actually serve any purpose other than knowledge and communication. :)
That's essentially why I appealed. I think I could fit into any house in some way (although I haven't ever been sorted into Gryffindor) but I think I'd get more use out of Slytherin, personally. It's up to you as judges in the end, though, I've just tried to make my case.
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