Season Eight Thinky Thoughts -Purgatory escape editions

Oct 04, 2012 16:46

Cut for episode one spoiler.
While in purgatory.... )

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etoile444 October 4 2012, 22:24:05 UTC
It was obvious that at least early on Dean was looking for "the angel". I also agree, no man left behind is DEan's creed. However, one glitch, I don't think angels have souls. So what Cas' grace might be up to...I've got nothing!

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hezio2 October 4 2012, 22:37:49 UTC
I didn't think they had souls either, but yeah,I should have called it his grace. I think Cas tried to stay away from Dean because he thought more evil things would go after them if they were together. I'm sure Dean's all angsty and feeling guilty about whatever did happen to Cas

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sidura October 4 2012, 22:26:57 UTC
There is the possibility that Cas left Dean with no choice but to leave him behind, by either forcing him to go on without him or scarficing himself in some way to let the escape happen.

Guess we will see as things go on and it slowly eats Dean up inside.

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hezio2 October 4 2012, 22:39:57 UTC
Sacrificing yourself for the good of the other? Well that is the Winchester way. Cas would have done that to save Dean, he did it before, in seasons 4 and 5. Dean has got to be torturing himself over leaving Cas behind.

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sidura October 4 2012, 23:28:53 UTC
Yes Cas has sacrficed himself for Dean in the past and I can see him doing it again, not just to save his friend but to make up for the things that he's done.

No matter how Cas got left behind, Dean is going to be beating himself up about it.

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tabaqui October 4 2012, 23:34:08 UTC
Hrmmmmmmmm. Interesting. I dunno, though. From what Dean said, I'm wondering if Castiel either lost his grace or lost his fight with madness while in Purgatory, and Dean couldn't get through to him anymore.

I don't *want* Castiel to be dead, at all, but unless he told Sam a total lie...*something* happened.

I am so damn *giddy* about this ep, about more Show in the offing - totally unspoiled, me - and loved everything about last night's episode. SO GOOD.

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hezio2 October 4 2012, 23:48:36 UTC
Dean said he 'saw enough'. He never said he saw Castiel dead. Chuck saw Cas explode and in season 5 it happened again. I think Dean had to do something he didn't want to in order to save himself (like hurt Cas) or Cas insisted on doing something that would force Dean to leave him behind.

The first episode laid groundwork for an amazing season.

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tabaqui October 5 2012, 00:04:14 UTC
He also said 'Something happened to him down there. Things got pretty hairy toward the end he...he just let go'.

So - more mystery!!! Dean is definitely having some 'issues', be it guilt or angst, over Castiel.

The first episode laid groundwork for an amazing season.

It so did! Wheee!

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lolaann1 October 5 2012, 00:49:54 UTC
I think that Cas was somehow key to the spell that got Dean through. And I also agree that Dean wouldn't easily leave him behind unless the writers are deciding to totally change his character. There has to be some sort of extenuating circumstances. Dean told Sam that Purgatory did something to Cas... maybe he was murderous or dangerous or something and Dean couldn't reach him. Hell, I dunno. After the day, I've had at work, it's probably best I don't speculate on anything :P

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metallidean_grl October 5 2012, 04:15:06 UTC
I have been thinking the same thing, Dean being human can pass through the portal, but Cas is not human, so he would not be able to. But then his vessel is human, and is Jimmy still inside there somewhere, if so, wouldn't his presence qualify him enough to be able to pass through the portal ( ... )

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hezio2 October 5 2012, 04:43:45 UTC
Cas died at least three times. Raphael blew him up, Lucifer blew him up, and the leviathans dissolved him(?) so I don't think much of Jimmy exists. There were 4 days we didn't see Dean and maybe he could have done something then that will be shown in later episodes, but truthfully, I think Cas is still down there.

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