The Vietnam war

Dec 31, 2008 20:17

Im gonna try and enlighten you on the Vietnam war, what it was, blah blah blah. Well, at least how it got started and who was involved.

The more you know )

-china, fan: art, -russia

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pajee January 1 2009, 03:15:52 UTC
From what I'm remembering from my S.E. Asia class... China also had a big influence on Northern Vietnam through religion (I think it was Confucianism) thus being more conservative and such, and the south was more liberal and open to new ideas and trade. So Russia and China coming in to Vietnam wasn't only because of Communist ideals, but because Northern Vietnam was already close to China because of long Confucius ideals that the Northern Viets weren't against it, unlike the South.

I hope I made sense and remembered everything correctly... =_=

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lilykt7 January 1 2009, 03:49:52 UTC
No you made sense. China did occupy Vietnam for a while too but I didn't wanna draw it cause I felt France and Japan played a larger part.

You would think I'd know rest. Alas wikipedia can only take you so far I guess.

Thanks for the info, I tried looking up the causes of the vietnam war online but I mostly just got things about communism vs democracy. I should edit your part in somewhere.

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prussiasgilbert January 1 2009, 03:40:52 UTC
This was quite awesome, i love Cold War history (and history in general).

As a further point, around the time of the vietnam war there was deterioration of the Relationship between China and Russia. Russia had to send supplies through China to get them to Vietnam and China actually did take quite a few weapons from those being delivered and added them to their own stockpile. Sneaky Chinese XD

sorry that had nothing to do with vietnam really. orz.

Your art style is also quite adorable.

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lilykt7 January 1 2009, 03:50:56 UTC
ahaha those two crack me up sometimes.

Thanks, its kind of messy though.

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noublie_pas January 1 2009, 03:41:35 UTC
Teehee, this was a nice read. ♥

I'm in the middle of writing fanfic about Vietnam and its history... :O *will probably use this as an info bank instead of relying on the 5+ wiki pages that i've been reading*

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lilykt7 January 1 2009, 03:52:29 UTC
dude I use wiki for EVERYTHING. You can't go wrong with it. Post up the fic when you're done!

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mithrigil January 1 2009, 03:43:31 UTC
Your drawing style is really elegant, I love the grain of it and the contour!

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lilykt7 January 1 2009, 03:51:53 UTC
are you kidding me!!! You're history lessons PWNS mine. My arts really sketchy. lol thanks though.

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lynn_pryderi January 1 2009, 04:07:35 UTC
Aah the Vietnam War. If you ask me it's that period of time when America was at its most interesting. Most people I've talked to about it who grew up then still don't understand why we were over there. And in the end I guess my explanation is that America has always been and will always be paranoid, and someone in government recognized that a Communist Vietnam would enable a whole chain of events that could blow up in America's face. I don't know that this war needed to ever happen though the same way I don't know that the Iraq War needed to start. I have my doubts, really.

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lilykt7 January 1 2009, 04:39:00 UTC
there were TONS of people against it but I felt like they should have a picked a course and STAYED with it (whether it was to go to war or not). It's like those men died for nothing. Vietnam itself was left in ruins afterwards. Even today it's still developing and there are still mines located in certains areas. It was a sad sad thing the vietnam war.

Totally agree America was really interesting during this period. This is like the first time the US really stars to doubt itself, it's motives, it's morals.

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lynn_pryderi January 1 2009, 04:54:49 UTC
Well see the thing was that Kennedy might've brought the war to a quicker end but with his assassination, America got LBJ, who just escalated the thing. And the counterculture was so firmly against the war that to be a hippie was to be antiwar too, there wasn't much separation. But to quote a Time-Life source, the counterculture had no guiding force, no plan, just "a vague idea of utopia revolving around peace and love".

Yeah I agree it was possibly the saddest war--the most lives lost for the vaguest and possibly least important reasons. At least with WWI and WWII there were some decent economic interests at the heart of the cause. Same with Iraq. I can't figure out what we could have possibly gained economically from Vietnam.

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martianunicorn January 1 2009, 04:44:29 UTC
america maybe thought along the lines of: vietnam becomes communist --> the whole asia becomes communist --> OHNOES

that's pretty damn scary actually, if the whole of asia did become communist.

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