Part VIII, notes
anonymous
December 21 2011, 08:33:12 UTC
Preview for Part IX: We’re gonna party like it’s 1066! (/*<*)/ Also, while we’re at it, here’s some baby!England: http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lwfbva44S21qfj5h7.gif (Why do I love this character so much. Why.)
Hello everyone, hope you’ve been well. Sorry for the delay again (this chapter was supposed to be attached to the next one, but I separated them because it was getting too long), but I’m now officially on Christmas break and am planning to devote it entirely to writing. Thank you guys for sticking with this story…it’s not much but I hope you continue to enjoy it. And even if not, let me know! I’d love to know how to improve! : )
*The first meeting of the UN General Assembly was held in Westminster Central Hall (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westminster_Central_Hall), just down the street from Westminster Abbey. Or…well, so I assume. Maybe down the street and just around the corner? Google Maps was a little confusing. IT’S CLOSE, OKAY?
*Catherine of Valois was Henry V’s French wife. After he died, she may or may not have married a Welshman named Owen Tudor (there’s no evidence that they weren’t married, but there’s also not any evidence showing that they were). Through their children they founded the Tudor dynasty. Catherine’s great-great-granddaughter was Elizabeth I.
Part VIII, notes
anonymous
December 21 2011, 08:35:08 UTC
*And now for a dramatic rendering of What Happened at the Field of the Cloth of Gold, 1520 Henry VIII: *kinging over in England* Francis I: *swaggin’ all over the place in France* Henry: Hmm. Francis and Charles, the Holy Roman Emperor, are the major players in Europe right now. They might go to war soon, so even though I’m not as powerful a country as either of them (yet - teehee!), they still might come calling on me for support. Kickin’ in the front seat, sittin’ in the back seat…gotta make up my mind, which alliance can I take? Cardinal Wolsey, Henry’s Chief Advisor: Try Francis. You two are so alike you might get on pretty well. Henry: Oh, you mean he’s just as arrogant and as in love with himself as I am? I foresee no future complications with this. Henry and Francis: *meet and have a TOTAL pissing contest trying to out-do and out-spend each other in every way possible - displays of wealth, food, jousting tournaments, who brought along the biggest posse. You know, important, kingly shit. Alliance? What possible alliance?* Pavilions Set Up With Real Gold Sewn Into the Cloth: *are ~fabulous~* History Teachers Everywhere: Francis and Henry also had the land leveled out to make sure that in every aspect of their meeting they were considered “equal.” Seriously, we can’t make this shit up. For the full list of fuckery, go here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field_of_cloth_of_gold Francis: I mean, yeah, sure, it’ll nearly send both our countries into financial ruin, but HEY, at least we all look damn good. Pimpin’: *refuses to be easy* Henry: Hey, Francy-Pants, about that alliance… Francis: Yeah? Henry: jk lol zomg. I’m actually going to sign one with Charles in a few weeks. See you at the battlefield, bitch! Charles: THUG LIFE. Italian War of 1521-1526: *is born*
And as for that duel between Arthur and Francis…I just like to imagine that any little thing can set those two off. And with the acid trip that the meeting at the Field of the Cloth of Gold turned in to…B)
*”Having guided my horse, my hand, my lance, so well…” and “That sweet enemy, France” are from sonnet 41 of Sir Philip Sidney’s Astrophel and Stella.
*Dickens’ Dombey and Son.
*”For I, not daring to love, in my inadequateness…” and “If no love is, O God, what feel I so?” are from Chaucer’s Troilus and Criseyde. “…compared it to a quenchless fire, the more it burns the more is its desire” is from the Wife of Bath’s prologue in the Canterbury Tales.
Hope you guys have a great day, see you soon! *waves* And if I don’t post sooner, have a very merry Christmas/happy holidays, and have a safe new year. xoxo
Re: Part VIII, notes
anonymous
December 21 2011, 18:01:59 UTC
I'm in love with your notes, they're so amazing.
Also - love how you write Arthur (he's my favourite character - I dig that guy soooo much, even the faily bits of his personality ♥) and I absolutely adore how you write Arthur and Francis' relationship/friendship/rivalry/what-have-you. Really, it perfectly matches my head!canon, so thank you for that.
Re: Part VIII, notes
anonymous
December 21 2011, 20:54:14 UTC
Your author's notes about the Field of the Cloth of Gold is hilarious. I can imagine a comic being made about this. 8D Ah, Henry VIII!! He was a rather interesting character, and not because he had six wives. It's quite unfortunate that he gets remembered as the obese king who was executed his own friend and broke with the Roman Catholic Church to marry Anne Boleyn instead of being remembered as the charismatic and athletic king that charmed the people of his country at his coronation-- but I'm getting off-topic. Heh. England and France have a rather complicated relationship, don't they? Although it could probably be summed up into: "continue fighting (verbally) because they're just so used to it while secretly (but not really) worrying about the other-- not that they'll ever admit it (but they will get close to doing so)." The two could probably join together to form a slapstick comedy duo... or something. Anyways, this fic is amazing and makes one want to hug England and squish him like a plush doll while patting his messy hair and muttering "there, there." (Gyaaa, the gif! The gif!) The final line in this chapter is rather cliffhanger-y. I certainly can't wait to see how America responds to learning about 1066 though. OTL
Re: Part VIII, notes
anonymous
December 22 2011, 03:21:04 UTC
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It's quite unfortunate that he gets remembered as the obese king who was executed his own friend and broke with the Roman Catholic Church to marry Anne Boleyn instead of being remembered as the charismatic and athletic king that charmed the people of his country at his coronation
Marry me? Henry VIII was such a fascinating man! Have you read Henry, Virtuous Prince by David Starkey?
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anonymous
December 22 2011, 22:31:49 UTC
Indeed he was! I've yet to read Starkey's novel, but I have read Margaret George's The Autobiography of Henry VIII: With Notes by His Fool, Will Somers, among some other novels from his children's perspectives. Henry VIII's opinion of FrancisI was ... well, it's really no wonder that England and France never got along until they were forced to.
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anonymous
December 23 2011, 01:15:10 UTC
Guys. YOU GUYS. Can we get together and have a Henry VIII party? I think he's fascinating, too! Definitely one of my favorite personages from history. : D
Although I have to say...I don't know what it's like everywhere else (author!anon is American), but thanks to cartoons, my first concept of Henry VIII was of an obese man just standing around, holding a chicken leg. I KID YOU NOT. But he couldn't've once been known as the handsomest prince in all of Christendom for nothing!
One of my favorite authors (though she's not that well-known, which I find unforgivable, really, and her books are hard to find unless you get them off eBay) is Margaret Campbell Barnes. She wrote lots of historical fiction about English royalty, including some with Henry. I definitely recommend them. : )
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anonymous
December 23 2011, 02:32:41 UTC
I'll bring the booze XD
My Mum was an English teacher (anon is South American) and she oved the Tudors, so I grew up with Henry around my home. I have such an attachment to the man Look at my life, look at my choices, LOL
Other Anon XD
anonymous
December 24 2011, 23:32:03 UTC
Staying anon is rather confusing. But yes, Henry VIII party! This anon shall bring a huge cloth spun from gold. *coughs* This anon shall also drag along a portrait of Francis I for the lulz.
This anon is technically a Canadian by birth, but lives as an American. The cartoon's representation of the handsomest prince in all of Christendom is most depressing. OTL Unfortunately, the image of an obese man (holding a chicken leg) pops up quite a lot. When this anon started ranting about Henry VIII to her friends, she was met with puzzled stares and a response which made anon wish to headdesk. Then again, with the portraits of the king as a rather large man being more known than his younger portraits, anon cannot blame her friends for their perception of the king.
... Anon shall proceed to gleefully search up book recommendations. Thank you very much for them! Anon shall also proceed to wait patiently for updates (the reference to the Field of the Cloth of Gold made anon fall in love with this fic even more). Anon shall stop referring to herself in third person. OTL
Re: Part VIII, notes
anonymous
December 22 2011, 06:45:08 UTC
Amazing update! You updated before I could comment on the previous part, sorry about that
I especially liked how monarchs swear fealty to England. I've always thought that bosses are there to serve the nation, who's bigger than whatever government is in place, and not the other way round.
Can't wait to read more about what happened after Hastings
Re: Part VIII, notes
anonymous
December 22 2011, 18:35:43 UTC
Arthur has come to grudgingly accept that Francis will always be a constant in his life. They are flames from the same fire, always dancing around each other
I really like the way you portrayed France and England's relationship. They still snip at one another but its almost friendly. I also adored the quotes you used in this update.
I had never before heard of the Field of the Cloth of Gold but your rendition told me everything I needed to know. :D
Re: Part VIII, notes
anonymous
December 22 2011, 23:11:02 UTC
Great, absolutely great update, Anon! Awww Westminster, what a magnificent place to be! I had the luck to visit it once, and it's amazing how well you can describe it without having seen it. Seriously, you rock! And I like how Arthur can hear the voices of his dead poets, and even more, the way he and Francis interact. You almost make me ship them LOL
As many have said before, yay for the notes! Cute, funny and interesting :)
Author anon here
anonymous
December 23 2011, 01:48:29 UTC
Oh wow, thank you very much! : ) You guys rock too, I DEMAND A BROFIST.
Oh my goodness, the amazing Westminster Abbey...it's good to know that what I wrote of it sounds true to life. I'm American by way of Texas (hay Texas hayyy) and haven't ever been to England, but have been in love with the country since I was a little girl. But loving a place and studying up on it for pleasure is very different from actually having been there, or even being from there. It makes me happy to know that I'm at least doing it a little right and that no one across the ocean wants to come and put a hit out on me! ...yet.
I have no idea where St. Edward's Chair really is today, though, and the steps that Francis sits on are probably totally inaccurate, lawl. I think the chair is actually hanging somewhere in the church, now? Or...maybe suspended is a better word.
Re: Part VIII, notes
anonymous
December 27 2011, 22:55:07 UTC
Long-ass!comment anon from before returns! I'm glad that this chapter triumphantly returned to the previous format and style of the earlier chapters. France and England interaction is my other side guilty pleasure to USUK and your take on their relationship was brilliant! The comparison to fire!!! And omg, the build-up during this chapter to France's question about England's relationships with other country's all the way to America was fabulous. That quote! ;_;
Also, your notes were very cute and made me smile. :) I really do love how you incorporate so seamlessly trinkets of the nations' histories into the present day... and then explain them to us less knowledgeable anons. (And you really are multi-talented - able to handle both serious scenes and comedy!)
Hello everyone, hope you’ve been well. Sorry for the delay again (this chapter was supposed to be attached to the next one, but I separated them because it was getting too long), but I’m now officially on Christmas break and am planning to devote it entirely to writing. Thank you guys for sticking with this story…it’s not much but I hope you continue to enjoy it. And even if not, let me know! I’d love to know how to improve! : )
*The first meeting of the UN General Assembly was held in Westminster Central Hall (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westminster_Central_Hall), just down the street from Westminster Abbey. Or…well, so I assume. Maybe down the street and just around the corner? Google Maps was a little confusing. IT’S CLOSE, OKAY?
*Westminster Abbey! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westminster_Abbey). An architectural marvel, with so much history inside it…I’d probably burst into tears if I was ever lucky enough to be inside it. When I was 12 I found out there was a Poets’ Corner (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westminster_Abbey_Burials_and_Memorials) inside, which the English literature nerd inside of me thought was the coolest thing ever, and still does.
*(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Unknown_Warrior)
(http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8353648.stm)
Tombs of the Unknown make me so sad. 8 ( And…I don’t know, I worry about the appropriateness of including in it in the story. *nervous hand wringing*
*King Edward’s Chair: (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Edward%27s_Chair) I haven’t seen The King’s Speech yet but if you have then you’ll know which chair we’re talking about! : ) (http://movieclips.com/KgQT-the-kings-speech-movie-st-edwards-chair/)
*Catherine of Valois was Henry V’s French wife. After he died, she may or may not have married a Welshman named Owen Tudor (there’s no evidence that they weren’t married, but there’s also not any evidence showing that they were). Through their children they founded the Tudor dynasty. Catherine’s great-great-granddaughter was Elizabeth I.
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Henry VIII: *kinging over in England*
Francis I: *swaggin’ all over the place in France*
Henry: Hmm. Francis and Charles, the Holy Roman Emperor, are the major players in Europe right now. They might go to war soon, so even though I’m not as powerful a country as either of them (yet - teehee!), they still might come calling on me for support. Kickin’ in the front seat, sittin’ in the back seat…gotta make up my mind, which alliance can I take?
Cardinal Wolsey, Henry’s Chief Advisor: Try Francis. You two are so alike you might get on pretty well.
Henry: Oh, you mean he’s just as arrogant and as in love with himself as I am? I foresee no future complications with this.
Henry and Francis: *meet and have a TOTAL pissing contest trying to out-do and out-spend each other in every way possible - displays of wealth, food, jousting tournaments, who brought along the biggest posse. You know, important, kingly shit. Alliance? What possible alliance?*
Pavilions Set Up With Real Gold Sewn Into the Cloth: *are ~fabulous~*
History Teachers Everywhere: Francis and Henry also had the land leveled out to make sure that in every aspect of their meeting they were considered “equal.” Seriously, we can’t make this shit up. For the full list of fuckery, go here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field_of_cloth_of_gold
Francis: I mean, yeah, sure, it’ll nearly send both our countries into financial ruin, but HEY, at least we all look damn good.
Pimpin’: *refuses to be easy*
Henry: Hey, Francy-Pants, about that alliance…
Francis: Yeah?
Henry: jk lol zomg. I’m actually going to sign one with Charles in a few weeks. See you at the battlefield, bitch!
Charles: THUG LIFE.
Italian War of 1521-1526: *is born*
And as for that duel between Arthur and Francis…I just like to imagine that any little thing can set those two off. And with the acid trip that the meeting at the Field of the Cloth of Gold turned in to…B)
*”Having guided my horse, my hand, my lance, so well…” and “That sweet enemy, France” are from sonnet 41 of Sir Philip Sidney’s Astrophel and Stella.
*Dickens’ Dombey and Son.
*”For I, not daring to love, in my inadequateness…” and “If no love is, O God, what feel I so?” are from Chaucer’s Troilus and Criseyde. “…compared it to a quenchless fire, the more it burns the more is its desire” is from the Wife of Bath’s prologue in the Canterbury Tales.
Hope you guys have a great day, see you soon! *waves* And if I don’t post sooner, have a very merry Christmas/happy holidays, and have a safe new year. xoxo
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Also - love how you write Arthur (he's my favourite character - I dig that guy soooo much, even the faily bits of his personality ♥) and I absolutely adore how you write Arthur and Francis' relationship/friendship/rivalry/what-have-you. Really, it perfectly matches my head!canon, so thank you for that.
I'm looking forward to the updates. :)
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Heh. England and France have a rather complicated relationship, don't they? Although it could probably be summed up into: "continue fighting (verbally) because they're just so used to it while secretly (but not really) worrying about the other-- not that they'll ever admit it (but they will get close to doing so)." The two could probably join together to form a slapstick comedy duo... or something.
Anyways, this fic is amazing and makes one want to hug England and squish him like a plush doll while patting his messy hair and muttering "there, there." (Gyaaa, the gif! The gif!) The final line in this chapter is rather cliffhanger-y. I certainly can't wait to see how America responds to learning about 1066 though. OTL
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It's quite unfortunate that he gets remembered as the obese king who was executed his own friend and broke with the Roman Catholic Church to marry Anne Boleyn instead of being remembered as the charismatic and athletic king that charmed the people of his country at his coronation
Marry me? Henry VIII was such a fascinating man! Have you read Henry, Virtuous Prince by David Starkey?
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Although I have to say...I don't know what it's like everywhere else (author!anon is American), but thanks to cartoons, my first concept of Henry VIII was of an obese man just standing around, holding a chicken leg. I KID YOU NOT. But he couldn't've once been known as the handsomest prince in all of Christendom for nothing!
One of my favorite authors (though she's not that well-known, which I find unforgivable, really, and her books are hard to find unless you get them off eBay) is Margaret Campbell Barnes. She wrote lots of historical fiction about English royalty, including some with Henry. I definitely recommend them. : )
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My Mum was an English teacher (anon is South American) and she oved the Tudors, so I grew up with Henry around my home. I have such an attachment to the man Look at my life, look at my choices, LOL
I'll check that book!
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This anon is technically a Canadian by birth, but lives as an American. The cartoon's representation of the handsomest prince in all of Christendom is most depressing. OTL Unfortunately, the image of an obese man (holding a chicken leg) pops up quite a lot. When this anon started ranting about Henry VIII to her friends, she was met with puzzled stares and a response which made anon wish to headdesk. Then again, with the portraits of the king as a rather large man being more known than his younger portraits, anon cannot blame her friends for their perception of the king.
... Anon shall proceed to gleefully search up book recommendations. Thank you very much for them! Anon shall also proceed to wait patiently for updates (the reference to the Field of the Cloth of Gold made anon fall in love with this fic even more). Anon shall stop referring to herself in third person. OTL
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I especially liked how monarchs swear fealty to England. I've always thought that bosses are there to serve the nation, who's bigger than whatever government is in place, and not the other way round.
Can't wait to read more about what happened after Hastings
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I really like the way you portrayed France and England's relationship. They still snip at one another but its almost friendly. I also adored the quotes you used in this update.
I had never before heard of the Field of the Cloth of Gold but your rendition told me everything I needed to know. :D
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And I like how Arthur can hear the voices of his dead poets, and even more, the way he and Francis interact. You almost make me ship them LOL
As many have said before, yay for the notes! Cute, funny and interesting :)
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Oh my goodness, the amazing Westminster Abbey...it's good to know that what I wrote of it sounds true to life. I'm American by way of Texas (hay Texas hayyy) and haven't ever been to England, but have been in love with the country since I was a little girl. But loving a place and studying up on it for pleasure is very different from actually having been there, or even being from there. It makes me happy to know that I'm at least doing it a little right and that no one across the ocean wants to come and put a hit out on me! ...yet.
I have no idea where St. Edward's Chair really is today, though, and the steps that Francis sits on are probably totally inaccurate, lawl. I think the chair is actually hanging somewhere in the church, now? Or...maybe suspended is a better word.
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Also, your notes were very cute and made me smile. :) I really do love how you incorporate so seamlessly trinkets of the nations' histories into the present day... and then explain them to us less knowledgeable anons. (And you really are multi-talented - able to handle both serious scenes and comedy!)
Can't wait for future updates!
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