Meta: Episode 3x07
Okie dokie, guys, here's the meta for episode 3.07: Eris Quod Sum! I had a lot of laugh-out-loud moments when reading these posts--you people are hilarious. XD
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Mohinder
I hate Mohinder. So much. […] "Oh, Maya, I actually totally care about you and I really was trying to help you, even though I leered at you like you were a piece of meat, and lied to you, and stuffed you into a gigantic suffocating cocoon. Honest!" Shut up, Mohinder. Just...SHUT...UP! -- fifmeister
Mohinder grabs Maya and leaps out of the lab THROUGH THE BLOODY ROOF WHAT IS HE A BATMAN WANNABE OR SOMETHING? *headdesk* Mohinder, you naughty boy! Unless you’re bringing Maya to Sylar as some kind of warped food-gift, like animals do, I am no longer interested in your plot. (Also, Mr. Kring? What a LAME and CHEAP way to weasel your way out of a super-fight. Shame on you!) -- aunt_zelda
"This is for murdering my father ..." oh, Mohinder, give it a REST, goddamnit! You didn’t even like your father! He alienated you to keep you safe, but he still alienated you! He might even have slept with you future boyfriend, AND he was creepy looking so bury that hatchet and buy a new one, like ‘you tortured me for an unspecified number of hours’ or ‘you kidnapped me and my adopted daughter and shot a woman in front of her’ or ‘you monster, murdering psycho’ or anything but the flimsy, frankly, tired and silly excuse of ‘you killed my father, prepare to die.’ -- aunt_zelda
"Do you have any idea how many innocent people he's killed?"
Hmmmm, let's see: HRG (in front of his DAUGHTER), your neighbor, a drug-dealer ... oh, wait, we were talking about Sylar's kills, not YOURS. SO SORRY TO CONFUZZLE YOU TWO BOYS, CARRY ON! -- aunt_zelda
LOL MOHINDER. Flee through the window, desperate to get away from Nathan (you know... the guy that flies). Sheesh, did that formula alter your brain's ability to function? -- shockd
“You can reverse the side effects? And I get to keep my powers? I’m kind of really big on the keeping the powers part. Because I am a selfish bastard and all. And I clearly haven't learned any sort of valuable lesson here about the dangers of attempting to play God.” -- alicebluegown16
“You lied to your children! God, that makes trapping people and experimenting on them for my own selfish desires to make myself special look like nothing! Speaking as one shitty parent to another, I am very disappointed in you, Arthur. And yes, even though we did just meet I absolutely do feel justified in condemning you. Did I mention I’m kind of an asshole?” -- alicebluegown16
“Tell me the important thing, Peter! Was I still pretty? No? Then all shall suffer to prevent that horrible fate! For how can I deprive the world of these cheekbones?” -- alicebluegown16
And then he kidnaps Maya and toad-jumps out through the skylight. Let’s hope that’s the last we see of this fucking storyline. I mean, what were the writers on? What made them think the audience would just accept this bullshit? -- tessykins
Meanwhile, Mohizard is acting like he hasn’t been bugshit crazy for the last few episodes. Dude, you had a web/nest thing. Don’t expect us to take you seriously right now. --tessykins
Mylar fans rejoice! Sylar says, “Hello, Mohinder” in that special sexy way he reserves just for him and then kills an extra. And Mohizard finally gets to do what he’s always wanted: pound Sylar into the floor. Well, his head at least. Damn, that still sounds dirty. -- tessykins
Mohinder looks very very unhappy. "I was trying to help Maya." Yes, you helped her onto a wall. -- ilikethequiet
Mohinder in this episode was somewhat nonsensical. He's no longer acting evil and crazy, but he is still not himself - it's like the writers are not sure how crazy/evil he is from episode to episode. It was bizarre to me that he was so concerned for Maya's safety when, mere hours earlier, he'd had her in a cocoon stuck to his wall. -- ibroketuesday
Yes, I loved the scene where Sylar and Mohinder met up. Totally what I would've expected from the two of them, and Mohinder was finally recognisable as himself! Of course, it all went belly-up for him again as he apparently has super-deep feelings for Maya, a girl he hardly knows as anything other than a one night stand, but whatever. -- toestastegood
I loved the “Hello, Mohinder” line right before shit started going down. On another tangent, I think that Sylar should say that to Mohinder every single time they see each other. It would be hilarious.
*In Pinehearst*
Sylar: Hello, Mohinder.
Mohinder: Oh, great. Look Sylar -
Sylar: It's Gabriel now.
Mohinder: ...Sylar. I know that I'm working for your dad so I have to deal with you being here too, but I'm telling you - just leave me alone *storms off*
*The next day*
Sylar: Hello, Mohinder!
Mohinder: Seriously, cut that shit out, or I'll beat your head into the ground again *walks away*
*Ten minutes later, in the bathroom*
Sylar: Why helloo-
Mohinder:*Knocks Sylar out and cocoons him* -- nowhack
Mohinder: [poised with syringe] "My salvation hinges on one thing: Peter, AM I HOT IN THE FUTURE?"
Peter: "Uh, you looked kinda funky, actually."
Mohinder: "DESPAIR AND WOE, ALL IS LOST AND YOU'RE GOING DOWN WITH ME." -- vejiicakes
[…] My long hoped for Mohinder guilt trip and Sylar returning to the dark side is either not coming, or just on hold. I want to see Mohinder deal with the shit he's done since the first episode of S3. He's acknowledged that he's gone down a pretty dark road, but he seems almost clinical about it. SUFFER, DAMN YOU, SO I SYLAR CAN LOVE YOU AGAIN. -- vejiicakes
AND THEN MAYA LEFT FOREVER :D Hopefully. But seriously, I'm glad she told him off before LEAVING FOREVER. I've completely given up understanding what Mohinder thinks his motivations were, between sexing her and then neglecting her and then stuffing her into a cocoon against her will, purportedly all for her sake. I don't-that-god, that whole arc was so bad. SO BAD. But at least now Maya's out of the equation and the writers will have to use something else for Mohinder to be ill-motivated by (like his impending fug). (..not that that's unreasonable, considering.) -- vejiicakes
Mo approaches Maya, who is getting her shit and leaving, telling him she could never trust him now. Mo protests that his feelings for her were real; you mean INSECTILE LUST? You don't even KNOW her. Gah. -- mysery_sock
Okay, spider!Mo… Probably good to run away on his part, but it seems you might be an even match for Nathan and Niki. But uh… why does he take Maya? I mean, he’s not really trying to help Maya. That’s a cover story to cover up for his need for HUMAN BLOOD, right? -- brighteyed_jill
Now Mohinder gets suspicious? Oh please. Don’t pretend to have a shred of morality (or dignity) left. -- brighteyed_jill
Maya
Major props to Maya for telling him where to shove it. Atta girl. Would have been nice if you'd done it six episodes ago, but better late than never. -- fifmeister
As befits her character, Maya will now fall helplessly in love with Arthur Petrelli. Until she learns his deep dark secret: he’s actually a nice guy. And then all the magic will be gone from the romance. -- alicebluegown16
And last but not least, Maya *wild applause* For once a non Bennet woman did not die on the show. *does a happy dance of joy* But I am confused as to where our non powered sweetheart is headed with that passport. Isn't Maya still wanted for murder in her own country? -- godiloveslash
Also, is Maya gone for good now that's she's TOTALLY useless to the plot? Now all she can do is clean. She's on the same level as Peter. Oh burn. -- its_not_wrong
Mohinder: I did it all for you!
Maya: REJECTED! -- mydnight_dreams
Maya is gone without dying? I don’t believe it. Not on this show. -- starvinbohemian
Now, when Arthur de-powered Maya and she decides to go home, I started twitching uncontrollably. So, the whole point of her character was to act as transportation to get Sylar up from Mexico, and then as a catalyst for Mohinder to get on the synthetic powers train. Her character wasn’t important, and her powers, for all they made of them, weren’t that important either. That poor girl was just a random plot point in a pretty body. I need to go beat someone senseless now. -- jaune_chat
Peter and Sylar (and Angela)
Clearly it didn't take Sylar long to catch on to the time-honored Petrelli tradition of slightly-creepy-possibly-inappropriate displays of familial affection. -- fifmeister
Okay, I admit Sylar's abrupt change from Son-of-a-Bitch to Son-of-the-Year makes a tad bit of sense, with his mommy issues and all. That was some quick switching over to Dad's side, though; well, he saved Peter, so maybe he's channeling Chuck and going nerd-spy on us. -- shockd
How did the most awesome villain I can remember in ages devolve into a puddle of insecurity who needs more validation than a parking meter?
Oh thank heaven, he hasn't totally drank the kool-aid. For a second there with his 'listening to whoever was the last person I talked to' thing, I thought Sylar had become Mohinder. -- alicebluegown16
Favourite. Oh, Mama, you just said the magic words. -- hariboo_smirks
"You came for me." the slash fic, it writes itself. "it's what brothers do." the Petrellicest fic, it writes itself. The Petrelli boys, taking Bromance to a whole new level. […] Oh, god, you two. Seriously. Make more eyes at each other. -- hariboo_smirks
Didn't hit as hard as he should have? Oh, Papa? Or Slyar? If the latter this just proves that Sylar is soooo much better at infiltration than Peter is. -- hariboo_smirks
I love that Sylar was all. "Peter brothers help each other, I need to save you." It just screamed incest of the bad touch variety. Then Monhinder had to tackle Sylar and I squeed until I broke a glass. Poor Sylar *pets him* This is what happens when you cheat on people honey, they go monster and try to rape you in front of your new boyfriend. -- godiloveslash
Peter, remember that girl with the illusions? And how your boyfriend Adam turned out to be evil? Stop accepting people. Poor Peter. Now he’s dumb and powerless. Though this might make him less of a danger to others. -- tessykins
Sylar: "That is what brothers do Peter, they look out for each other." [And] Nathan, almost cockroach food, who is looking out for him? -- ilikethequiet
I'm interested to see where Sylar goes from here. I hope he's back to his bad-ass self again, though I'm not quite buying it seeing as he apparently stopped Peter from making a glorious splat-mark on the pavement. -- toestastegood
Either way, with both [Sylar] and Mohinder supposedly working for Mr Petrelli now, I'm looking forward to seeing them interacting again. And beating the crap out of each other. And Sylar going "ewww" when he sees Mohinder's rash. 'cause, dude, THAT'S enough to kill a 'ship. -- toestastegood
Peter depowered? I was wondering when the writers were going to do this. Everyone has been saying that they would have no choice, but I feel this is still the lazy way. I want to see the writers deal with the trouble they made for themselves by making him ridiculously powerful. -- starvinbohemian
Peter/Nathan, Peter/Mohinder, Peter/Elle (clearly, I would ship Peter with toast if that was an option) -- starvinbohemian
Oh, the Chest Button of Self-Righteousness! It pops! (Seriously, where was the superman insignia?) -- tiptoe39
LOL SYLAR <3z PETER. BROS BEFORE HOS. -- filpbeter
Peter needs to stop having sexual tension with EVERYTHING THAT MOVES. -- flipbeter
Peter’s popping out of his shirt. Ratings go up. Peter’s strapped to a table. Ratings go up again. Mohinder starts talking pseudo-science. Ratings go down. -- brighteyed_jill
Peter even sucks at escaping. Oh, poor baby. I’m starting to think he was a really incompetent nurse. They put him on hospice duty because he was killing people anyway. -- brighteyed_jill
Arthur
Arthur is just plain scary. What kind of father watches his son get pushed out a seven-story window and reacts with nothing but, "O hay! Wonder how he survived that fall?" I'm starting to think that out of all the Petrellis, the reformed serial killer is the best parent by far. If that's not freaky, I don't know what is. -- fifmeister
What the hell is the point of Pinehearst? After seeing them "fix" Maya, it became clear to me that Pinehearst is just Company 2.0, which Papa Petrelli was already involved in. Why the hell would he go to the trouble of faking his death just to set up another company when he could have just stepped in as the head of the first company and then did whatever he wanted? Apparently, he's the biggest badass to ever badass, so taking over shouldn't have been a problem. This makes no sense. -- starvinbohemian
Meanwhile in Petrelli Awesome Town, we get a few groovy flashbacks, and then Peter wakes up IN BONDAGE AGAIN. Arthur, you're fabulous. Robert Forster has the best accent ever, really. It almost makes up for lines like "Until you change that attitude, you're grounded." Um. Okay. -- mystery_sock
Arthur goes in and lays hands on Maya, who convulses all over the place, then happily gives up her power to the Baddest Daddy In All The Land. -- mystery_sock
Arthur tells [Daphne] that she needs to recruit Parkman - or, better yet, just kill him. Maury flips out, and tries to play the "If it wasn't for me, you'd still be lying in a palatial bed with a tube in your dick!" Naturally, Arthur casually breaks his neck. -- mystery_sock
ANOTHER ONE BITES THE DUST. Arthur totally bitchslapped Maury to death. -- flipbeter
The Fantastic Four: Nathan, Tracy, Noah and Meredith
Nathan standing between Meredith and Tracy. His expression was that of man who is doing all he can to prevent blurting out “Sooooo, threesome? Yes? No? Too soon? It’s too soon, isn’t it? How ‘bout now? Is now good?” -- alicebluegown16
“Wait, you’re saying our dad is actually alive? That’s just crazy talk, Peter! And I think my girlfriend who can freeze things and my recently acquired illegitimate daughter who can heal from any injury will back me up on this.” -- alicebluegown16
Tracy accepts the Human Flamethrower baby mama. Accepts the illegitimate kid. Accepts the illegitimate kid’s adoptive parent who is holding a gun and wants to take you in for “testing.” Accepts the potential father-in-law who has returned from the dead and is evil. Accepts the brother you can’t keep from touching and who is always shirtless. And she is able to come up with a plan that doesn’t involve knocking down doors, going in guns blazing, and likely getting your fool ass killed.
Nathan if you don’t put a ring on that girl’s finger, I will. -- alicebluegown16
Ewwwww HRG don't go there. And now he mentions Mohinder eggs (not the Cadbury variation I assume), he's so going there. -- canadian_turtle
Why is that people on this show never have a plan? They are always charging into dangerous situations and are like "I DON'T NEED A PLAN, I'M SPECIAL!". Like I was screaming at Nathan not to go to Pinehearst. I think as the character gets more attractive, their intelligence goes down. -- its_not_wrong
Noah is awesome, and then Meredith is a bitch. She has no entitlement to that attitude, since the last time she saw Nathan, she was swindling him out of a lot of money. So, shut up, Meredith. -- tessykins
Meredith tries to outbitch Tracy, but Tracy totally shuts her down. I really like Tracy, and I don’t want to because of the stupid clone shit. Damn you, Tracy! -- tessykins
Oh look awkward moment for Nathan with the other woman and the other other woman (Neither of them who are actually, you know, his WIFE) -- ilikethequiet
Tracy gets the points though for saying that her and Nathan weren't together. Way to see a one night stand for what it was. -- mydnight_dreams
Meredith, why do you feel the need to keep being all: "Y HALLO THAR, REMEMBER THAT I'M FLAMY HANDZ" every fucking time you're on screen?
We all know what you can do. Really, we got it from before, and the 2745739832489723 times you've done it to remind us that yes, you have the power of pryokinesis. And when you're consistently showing everyone that 'HEY LOOK WHAT I CAN DO' ala Stewart from SNL, it just makes me wonder why you're here. Especially when you never USE your ability beyond "LOOK AT MY PRETTY HANDS." -- greyelveneyes
Does Nathan still technically have a job as a junior senator? Doesn’t that, like, require actual work? -- starvinbohemian
Meredith: Girl needs to freaking stop with the fire-hands! WE GET IT. She can generate fire. We didn’t forget, okay? -- starvinbohemian
Har har har HRG and eggs. He's so bitter about Mohinder. That's adorable. -- shimmeree
Tracy laughs with the whole audience at the absurdity of the Petrelli family tree. Tracy would totally kick Meredith’s ass in a fight. Also, Meredith continues to flame every time she enters the room. Just in case anyone’s forgotten she’s “special.” -- brighteyed_jill
Clearly the writers were a little flummoxed at what to do with a reasonably intelligent character, so they slipped Tracy half of one of Mohinder’s stupid pills. I can think of no other reason why, after sitting there calmly and placidly for hours with Nathan waiting for the Company people, she’d suddenly decide to go play with the webbing victims. -- jaune_chat
Tracy seems to have forgotten that her twin sister was an internet stripper that had sex with Nathan. And if she did any background research on him before making him a senator, she should know that technically he’s still married (I think, I don’t recall them taking about divorce in S2) with children. Also, do recall he has a teenage daughter to boot. Remember Tracy, Nathan’s a very sexy man-whore with a penchant for touching his brother, so just walk into this with open eyes! -- jaune_chat
Daphne and Matt
Which brings me to dear old Matt. I feel so bad for him and his ability to never find a steady relationship. Although, it was kinda cute how he called his boyfriend domestic life partner, Mohinder, only to leave him a very Heroes-ish type attempt at irony: "You won't believe the week I just had" Matt proclaims, unaware of how Mohinder has caught a rare STD and is now into necrophilia. Poor Matt. And I really, really want Matt/Daphne to work, wow you guys I hate het but it's so cute. BUT NO SHE'S PLAYING HIM. RAGE. -- its_not_wrong
The whole bit with Matt and Daphne was just predictable. I wonder why... Oh! Maybe it's because we saw the same fucking thing last week! You know, when Hiro used his powers to fake someone's death. Was I really supposed to gasp in shock when Matt and Daphne "died"? Honestly. Just because the writers often forget what each character can do, it doesn't mean we all do. -- egoteprovoco
Oh, and apparently Daphne was so terribly sneaky that she fooled Matt. Lucky for her that he doesn't try to READ HER MIND! Jeez, wouldn't it be nice if someone on this show knew how to READ MINDS? -- egoteprovoco
Matt and Daphne concoct a really good plan. Like, surprisingly intelligent. And I totally fell for it at first. I was like, NOOO! Not my one favorite couple! And Matt pulled off scary! It was awesome. And the punching through the chest. I’m a fan of that killing style. But I’m so glad Daphne and Matt are still alive and running around together. And their awesome little kiss. Though I’m less thrilled that Daphne is a double agent. -- tessykins
Meanwhile, Daphne is morally graying out and is still in Arthur's pocket. She calls him up from the House of M while Matt's around the corner, apparently semi-deaf as well as dyslexic. (Yeah, where's Matt's dyslexia? Did they forget?) -- mystery_sock
OK, Matt? You are all man, and I love you. And I am wondering if I can get Daphne and you and Mohinder and Sylar to be all one big polyamorous family, because you're ALL meant to be with each other. THIS EPISODE IS RUINING MY ABILITY TO SHIP. Seriously, Heroes, your characters should just all be in one continuous orgy. -- tiptoe39
Claire and Elle (or the fairly unanimous agreement of “Claire/Elle”)
Also, when she totally pwned Claire with "You can't feel pain? Pfft, I wish I had your problems," I kind of wanted to kiss the ground beneath her feet and thank her profusely for saying what I've been thinking pretty much all season. -- fifmeister
"You're fine, you're perfect." Elle says, spurring many, MANY fanfics. […]
"All right Dorothy. Then we're off to the see the wizard." *giggles* Yay for a Veronica Mars reference! You just know she's gonna nickname Mr. Muggles 'Backup' in a couple episodes. -- aunt_zelda
And the way they stopped the plane from crashing? CLAIRE AND ELLE HELD HANDS. No lie. You know I'm sure I read that in a fanfic somewhere. -- krilymcc
Then, they decided to put Elle on an airplane. Who didn't see disaster coming there? And could someone please explain electricity to the writers? It wouldn't go into Claire and *stop* - it would travel *through* Claire and into the plane. Electricity's funny like that. -- egoteprovoco
God, Claire’s smug little smile when Elle shocks her. Fantastic. Claire likes having the power. I’m totally into dom!Claire now. Elle is totally her bitch. Did I mention that hair-pulling is one of my major Eclaire kinks? Yeah, total porn for me. -- tessykins
They put their trust in each other and they spark. And then they sit together, hand clasped, flushed and panting. It’s exactly what they look like after crazy monkey sex. The celebratory grins! Immediately afterward, they have sex in the airplane bathroom. Canon. Trufax. -- tessykins
And Elle channeling her electricity into Claire was the BEST. THING. EVER, even though it was idiotic to take her on a plane in the first place; the sweating and panting and smiling and eeeeee. It reminded me of the Tara/Willow scene in S4 in which they do a spell together - and that one was intended to be their first sex scene. In short, my fondness for Elle/Claire has evolved into full-blown shipping. -- ibroketuesday
I like how Claire's clearly too used to attempts on her life to even care about it anymore. BITCH you nearly killed my boyfriend and my brother and you invaded my home and attacked me! So can I help you, or what? -- vejiicakes
I want the Claire of yore, the one with the sad smile and the sunshine personality and the good hair. Come back, good hair. I'm begging you. Please. -- shimmeree
Sandra and Lyle (because they deserved their own section!)
"If she gives you any lip, just toss a glass of water on her, Lyle-style."
First of all: 'LYLE-STYLE' FTW!
Second: Sandra, really now … ‘gives you any lip’? That’s no way to speak when there are rabid fangirls running around … -- aunt_zelda
Lyle: "Bitch is back." Oh Lyle, one line every 5 episodes, but they rock. Hard. -- candian_turtle
Lyle the most randomest guy in the world threw a bucket of water over Elle *waves Team!Lyle flags* -- ilikethequiet
Lyle Lyle Lyle Lyle. I ♥ you. First you prove that your’re not 6 by calling Elle a bitch. Then? you show that unpowered people are AWESOME! by going all wicked witch of the west on Elle and pouring water on her. That’s right you can be the man of the house without sneaking into Dad's closet and stealing his taser. Oh and good job NOT hiding in the closet when your home is invaded. Clearly its a good thing you weren't adopted because you have brains. -- deepwonderment
LYLE HAS THE BEST LINE OF THE FIRST SEGMENT. Oh, Lyle. I hope you get a superpower in Season Four. -- tiptoe39
Hiro and Ando and Usutu
Speaking of things Lost, I love how they totally stole African!Isaac's magical vision-giving potion gunk straight from the stuff that Locke gave Boone way back in season one--that pasty stuff that made Boone hallucinate the monster eating Shannon. Maybe Hiro will be seeing polar bears next? -- fifmeister
Ok, so basically African Isaac put Hiro on the paste because Hiro refuses to go back to the past and fix everything the easy way? Ten to one, the season finale is going to be Hiro owning up, going back, changing something, and returning to the ‘now’ to find everything drastically changed, possibly for the better. This means that everything happening now is going to be undone, which explains why most of the plots this season suck: they’re going to be erased soon. -- aunt_zelda
Oh, African!Isaac, you are much more cryptic than original flavour Isaac. -- cupcakery
OOOh, so Hiro timetravels again. What wacky fun will he get up to now? *cough*bring Adam back*cough* -- hariboo_smirks
Hiro and Ando we didn't see that much of this week, but what we did see was cuter then cute. I swear these two must have eaten a truck load of fluffy bunnies or something, because every time they are onscreen my brain turns to mush and I giggle nonstop like I've just eaten 1,000 Pixie Stixs. -- godiloveslash
Ah, Ando and Hiro are peer-pressured into taking Rafiki’s magical drug paste. -- tessykins
Anyway, Hiro and Ando are having a bowl with Usutu, dosing up with the future-seeing paste, because it's safer than time travel. It's true! Don't take plane trips; take acid trips! Usutu tells them what it's like to take psychadelics - dose, then wait. -- mystery_sock
Miscellaneous Thoughts and People
I wonder if Arthur will meet his remaining grandchild, now Nathan's sons have been retconned into not existing. -- alias_sqbr
Demons! There are demons at Bennet's! Wait wrong show. I'm conditioned, you guys. Anyways, flicking lights are always bad news. -- schtroumph_c
I love how Primatech became the good guys. -- schtroumph_c
So basically, everyone can go and see the future now? Heroes: COME SEE THE FUTURE, all you have to do is find your way to the middle of the dust bowl in Africa and eat some poo! Disclaimer: You have to eat poo. You must also find your spirit animal. No guarantees on how awesome your animal may be. It might be a turtle. Which is a metaphor, for just how slow you are. -- its_not_wrong
ALSO: WHY IS NO ONE FREAKING OUT ABOUT THE EXISTENCE OF CLAUDE, and how he is in England creating his own band of merry heroes??? -- its_not_wrong
And what happened in that nice dream sequence between Angela and Sylar Gabriel? First, since when can she appear to people in their dreams? Second, how can she do it while trapped in her own mind? Third - and by far the worst - the only thing that Sylar needed to escape from the power-neutralizing nose tube was to believe he could? Are you kidding me?!?! What the hell was going on in the writers' room?
Writer 1: "So then, just as Mohinder's going to inject Peter with something, Sylar bursts in, TKs everyone, and saves the day!
Writer 2: "Excellent! But, uh, isn't Sylar supposed to be imprisoned in Level 5?"
Writer 1: "No problem. We'll have Angela find him and let him out."
Writer 2: "But Angela's trapped in a hallucination, isn't she?"
Writer 1: "Jesus, you're a buzz-kill. You think anyone will even remember that?
Writer 2: "Uh, she can't move, but she can dream herself at him and give him the confidence to escape."
Writer 1: "Dude, that's beautiful. The healing power of a mother's love. If you can dream it you can do it. So inspirational." -- egoteprovoco
I STILL WANT ADAM BACK. There has to be a way. Like...Hiro goes back in time and snatches a past version of Adam and brings him to this present. Explains everything away, Adam stays for the season, and at the end, the Haitian has to wipe his memory before Hiro puts him back to his own timeline. I mean, THINK ABOUT IT. The epicness of that friendship-to-betrayal-to-friendship-to-mindwipe!betrayal-again just...dude. And you can bring Isaac along with you, btw. I'm not abject to more Mystery Sock...
Okay, TPTB, go ahead and copy that idea. We all know you're around here somewhere, ganking any cracked out, weird-ass theories from us that you can get your grabby little hands on. D:< -- greyelveneyes
[The Show] wasn't always "Hey, super sekrit company organizations that work to do way more than mundane things, wanna work here?" and "Hey, EVERYONE IS ADOPTED AND, OH YEAH, YOU'RE ALL ORIGINALLY A PETRELLI" and "Oh look, everything is APOCALYPTIC NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO IT WILL ALWAYS BE THE WORLD ENDING!" -- greyelveneyes
Masi and Greg beatboxing was made of utter and absolute win. Even if I end up hating this show, I’ll never stop loving its cast. -- nowhack
Maury cared about his son ? Huh. News to me. Wait, he’s dead! Fuck you, writers. Now you’re just killing people for shock value. -- starvinbohemian
Eris quod sum Which means, btw, “I am what you will be.” Usually used as an epitaph. Is it me, or are the titles several degrees more pretentious this season? We've now gone from "pretentious poetry-quoting bohemian" to "pretentious Latin-quoting classics major or law student." -- brighteyed_jill
And various combination(s) of everyone (A.K.A any and all of the inappropriate sexual tension that holds this show together)
That aside, I really did like this episode. There was a lot of slash. And I mean a lot of slash: Claire saved a plane by holding Elle’s hand, Mohinder jumped Sylar’s bones, Sylar let Mohinder live TWO MORE TIMES (someone ought to be keeping a tally here), there was oodles enough Petrellicest to keep the incest-fangirls squeeing for the next two weeks, Matt returned to the House of M, Meredith and Tracey met (can you spell ‘opposite element fanfics?’), and Daphne and Matt bonded (if you put a ‘/’ between their names it’s a kind of slash … I like them, shut up.) -- aunt_zelda
I mean, I know Matt's desperate to see Mohinder for affection, but he totally jumped into that role the future!vision showed him... despite the fact Hiro will probably go back in time and thereby alter everything in existence. Again. -- shockd
Did you notice that Matt rang Mohinder the second he got home, but Mohinder seems to have completely forgotten he existed? One of them doesn't get totally distracted by a new girlfriend and the threat of death... Admitedly, there may be a note on the fridge saying "Matt: where are you? Am turning into an evil cockroach. Please remember to take out the trash when you get back.- Mohinder" -- alias_sqbr
Sylar and Peter taking the time to have some Petrelli-cest eye fucking. Mohinder climbing on top of Sylar, straddling him, and bashing his head in. “You! Do! Not! Have! Inappropriate! Chemistry! With Others! Why haven’t you returned my calls? Have you been letting other people inject you? Have you? Answer me!” -- alicebluegown16
Sylar whining about how this all about him being abandoned by the family. Missing the effing point, sweetie! Good god, how impossibly more fucked up would Peter and Sylar have been if they’d grown up together and had Angela and Arthur playing metaphysical tug-of-war with them all those years? Family game nights would have ended in bloodshed, I’m sure. -- alicebluegown16
I'm just waiting for the whole Petrelli family to be in one room together. And I like the fact that Peter's in shock after losing his powers. It's like a battlefield amputation. Hey there with the Nietzsche, Pa. WTF grounded. -- cupcakery
Nice parallels there, show, with the Peter falling several stories because of Gabriel and not quite dying. Oh yeah, he totally slowed him down on purpose because he is playing all of them and will flounce off in the end, going "la la la~" after fingerpainting in someone's blood again and everyone will be all D: how could we have been so fooled!? And then HRG will be all TOLD YOU SO and Claire will be miffed about Gabriel being her uncle and Nathan will actually check himself into a psych ward because of all of the dying and seeing dead!Linderman and his family in general. That is how the season will end. -- cupcakery
Ok so the narrator guy tells us that Peter fell victim to his father. Is it just me or does that sound like there was bad touching going on that didn't involve power sucking? Now I understand why there's so much Petrellicest going on, it's what they grew up around. -- krilymcc
Although, all of those sweet, cuddly "we're brothers and we love each other" scenes kind of make me want to throw up. Petrellis really put family first, huh? Even though they have to be the worst family in the history of the world. In what other family can you kill your brothers *repeatedly* and still like each other? -- egoteprovoco
Has anyone bothered to tell Nathan that Sylar's his brother? I know that Peter told him all about their Dad being alive, and mentioned that Sylar saved him, but does Nathan know the really big news? Does Claire yet? If not, isn't that the sort of thing that Peter should have included in his story? -- egoteprovoco
Elle and Claire are walking towards the building when Peter plummets to the sidewalk. What if some unsuspecting bystander had been walking by? That’d be weird. -- tessykins
I have this crazy theory that once Elle sees Sylar at Pinehearst, she flees to New York City. On her way to Peter’s apartment, she runs into Claude, who has followed her from London. She and Claude arrive at Peter’s apartment just after Nathan and Tracy leave. There are awkward reunions all around. And then Claude hits Peter with a stick (the traditional Plaude greeting) and then takes him off to the bedroom to “tend to his wounds”. Embarrassed by their uncle-figures having sex in the next room, Elle and Claire are still unable to resist making out. And that’s how the next episode should start. -- tessykins
There were finally some repercussions being shown, and EARTH LOGIC being used. Sylar throwing Peter out of the window to get in good with Arthur and to - most likely - try to take him down later, Arthur noticing that Sylar didn’t kill Peter, Mohinder beating the shit out of Sylar because really, he has every right in the world to do so, Claire letting Elle channel her electricity through her, Maya leaving Mohinder, Matt using his power on Knox, Noah coming to the loft, and Nathan wanting to go take Pinehearst down. WHEW. -- nowhack
In the lab of Mohinder's Character Assassination, Nathan and Tracy argue with Mo, and Nathan puts the smack down. So Mohinder spiders out, grabs Maya, and jumps out. -- mystery_sock
Arthur calmly walks over to Mo and advises him to stop, and informs Mohinder that Sylar is his son. MAJOR SOCIAL FAUX-PAS, MOHINDER. (and also, that answers THAT paternity question. Or does it? Claire is Sandra and Noah's daughter, but she's not related to them; I'm not implying that Sylar was adopted or anything, but Peter's paternity is still, more or less, in question. No, I will not rest until I have the whole Petrelli family tree mapped out.) -- mystery_sock
OMG! It was like the return of every OTP ever! Matt/Mohinder! Peter/Mohinder! Sylar/Peter! Nathan/Peter! Sylar/Mohinder! Elle/Claire! My little slash-lovin' heart was about to burst, y'all. -- candidlily
Peter is shirtless in bed and Claire is giving him a sponge bath? Are you for real right now? Somewhere, a Paire shipper's head is exploding. -- brighteyed_jill
I love how he grabs Maya and leaps into the night, and Nathan stands there like, “Wha?” Dude, you can FLY! If you’re so concerned about saving Maya and maybe taking Crazy!Mohinder off the streets, maybe you could go after them. Take Tracy, because it’s clear she’s good in a fight. Or maybe Nathan doesn’t want to save anyone unless the reward involves sex, really close hugging, or both. And Maya’s secondhand goods and Mohinder has lost his boyish charm during the latest round of involuntary bondage. -- jaune_chat
When Claire and Sandra pull up to the lights flickering and Lyle (hey, someone remembered he exists!) out on the floor, I started banging my head on the table. How many break-ins have they had now? I said it before, this family is flypaper for freaks. Get an alarm system, a butch Great Dane to bodyguard for Mr. Muggles, some freaking Home Alone tar-and-nails types of traps, or even a deadbolt, just KEEP PEOPLE OUT OF YOUR HOUSE! Work with me here people! -- jaune_chat
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Mohinder
I hate Mohinder. So much. […] "Oh, Maya, I actually totally care about you and I really was trying to help you, even though I leered at you like you were a piece of meat, and lied to you, and stuffed you into a gigantic suffocating cocoon. Honest!" Shut up, Mohinder. Just...SHUT...UP! -- fifmeister
Mohinder grabs Maya and leaps out of the lab THROUGH THE BLOODY ROOF WHAT IS HE A BATMAN WANNABE OR SOMETHING? *headdesk* Mohinder, you naughty boy! Unless you’re bringing Maya to Sylar as some kind of warped food-gift, like animals do, I am no longer interested in your plot. (Also, Mr. Kring? What a LAME and CHEAP way to weasel your way out of a super-fight. Shame on you!) -- aunt_zelda
"This is for murdering my father ..." oh, Mohinder, give it a REST, goddamnit! You didn’t even like your father! He alienated you to keep you safe, but he still alienated you! He might even have slept with you future boyfriend, AND he was creepy looking so bury that hatchet and buy a new one, like ‘you tortured me for an unspecified number of hours’ or ‘you kidnapped me and my adopted daughter and shot a woman in front of her’ or ‘you monster, murdering psycho’ or anything but the flimsy, frankly, tired and silly excuse of ‘you killed my father, prepare to die.’ -- aunt_zelda
"Do you have any idea how many innocent people he's killed?"
Hmmmm, let's see: HRG (in front of his DAUGHTER), your neighbor, a drug-dealer ... oh, wait, we were talking about Sylar's kills, not YOURS. SO SORRY TO CONFUZZLE YOU TWO BOYS, CARRY ON! -- aunt_zelda
LOL MOHINDER. Flee through the window, desperate to get away from Nathan (you know... the guy that flies). Sheesh, did that formula alter your brain's ability to function? -- shockd
“You can reverse the side effects? And I get to keep my powers? I’m kind of really big on the keeping the powers part. Because I am a selfish bastard and all. And I clearly haven't learned any sort of valuable lesson here about the dangers of attempting to play God.” -- alicebluegown16
“You lied to your children! God, that makes trapping people and experimenting on them for my own selfish desires to make myself special look like nothing! Speaking as one shitty parent to another, I am very disappointed in you, Arthur. And yes, even though we did just meet I absolutely do feel justified in condemning you. Did I mention I’m kind of an asshole?” -- alicebluegown16
“Tell me the important thing, Peter! Was I still pretty? No? Then all shall suffer to prevent that horrible fate! For how can I deprive the world of these cheekbones?” -- alicebluegown16
And then he kidnaps Maya and toad-jumps out through the skylight. Let’s hope that’s the last we see of this fucking storyline. I mean, what were the writers on? What made them think the audience would just accept this bullshit? -- tessykins
Meanwhile, Mohizard is acting like he hasn’t been bugshit crazy for the last few episodes. Dude, you had a web/nest thing. Don’t expect us to take you seriously right now. --tessykins
Mylar fans rejoice! Sylar says, “Hello, Mohinder” in that special sexy way he reserves just for him and then kills an extra. And Mohizard finally gets to do what he’s always wanted: pound Sylar into the floor. Well, his head at least. Damn, that still sounds dirty. -- tessykins
Mohinder looks very very unhappy. "I was trying to help Maya." Yes, you helped her onto a wall. -- ilikethequiet
Mohinder in this episode was somewhat nonsensical. He's no longer acting evil and crazy, but he is still not himself - it's like the writers are not sure how crazy/evil he is from episode to episode. It was bizarre to me that he was so concerned for Maya's safety when, mere hours earlier, he'd had her in a cocoon stuck to his wall. -- ibroketuesday
Yes, I loved the scene where Sylar and Mohinder met up. Totally what I would've expected from the two of them, and Mohinder was finally recognisable as himself! Of course, it all went belly-up for him again as he apparently has super-deep feelings for Maya, a girl he hardly knows as anything other than a one night stand, but whatever. -- toestastegood
I loved the “Hello, Mohinder” line right before shit started going down. On another tangent, I think that Sylar should say that to Mohinder every single time they see each other. It would be hilarious.
*In Pinehearst*
Sylar: Hello, Mohinder.
Mohinder: Oh, great. Look Sylar -
Sylar: It's Gabriel now.
Mohinder: ...Sylar. I know that I'm working for your dad so I have to deal with you being here too, but I'm telling you - just leave me alone *storms off*
*The next day*
Sylar: Hello, Mohinder!
Mohinder: Seriously, cut that shit out, or I'll beat your head into the ground again *walks away*
*Ten minutes later, in the bathroom*
Sylar: Why helloo-
Mohinder:*Knocks Sylar out and cocoons him* -- nowhack
Mohinder: [poised with syringe] "My salvation hinges on one thing: Peter, AM I HOT IN THE FUTURE?"
Peter: "Uh, you looked kinda funky, actually."
Mohinder: "DESPAIR AND WOE, ALL IS LOST AND YOU'RE GOING DOWN WITH ME." -- vejiicakes
[…] My long hoped for Mohinder guilt trip and Sylar returning to the dark side is either not coming, or just on hold. I want to see Mohinder deal with the shit he's done since the first episode of S3. He's acknowledged that he's gone down a pretty dark road, but he seems almost clinical about it. SUFFER, DAMN YOU, SO I SYLAR CAN LOVE YOU AGAIN. -- vejiicakes
AND THEN MAYA LEFT FOREVER :D Hopefully. But seriously, I'm glad she told him off before LEAVING FOREVER. I've completely given up understanding what Mohinder thinks his motivations were, between sexing her and then neglecting her and then stuffing her into a cocoon against her will, purportedly all for her sake. I don't-that-god, that whole arc was so bad. SO BAD. But at least now Maya's out of the equation and the writers will have to use something else for Mohinder to be ill-motivated by (like his impending fug). (..not that that's unreasonable, considering.) -- vejiicakes
Mo approaches Maya, who is getting her shit and leaving, telling him she could never trust him now. Mo protests that his feelings for her were real; you mean INSECTILE LUST? You don't even KNOW her. Gah. -- mysery_sock
Okay, spider!Mo… Probably good to run away on his part, but it seems you might be an even match for Nathan and Niki. But uh… why does he take Maya? I mean, he’s not really trying to help Maya. That’s a cover story to cover up for his need for HUMAN BLOOD, right? -- brighteyed_jill
Now Mohinder gets suspicious? Oh please. Don’t pretend to have a shred of morality (or dignity) left. -- brighteyed_jill
Maya
Major props to Maya for telling him where to shove it. Atta girl. Would have been nice if you'd done it six episodes ago, but better late than never. -- fifmeister
As befits her character, Maya will now fall helplessly in love with Arthur Petrelli. Until she learns his deep dark secret: he’s actually a nice guy. And then all the magic will be gone from the romance. -- alicebluegown16
And last but not least, Maya *wild applause* For once a non Bennet woman did not die on the show. *does a happy dance of joy* But I am confused as to where our non powered sweetheart is headed with that passport. Isn't Maya still wanted for murder in her own country? -- godiloveslash
Also, is Maya gone for good now that's she's TOTALLY useless to the plot? Now all she can do is clean. She's on the same level as Peter. Oh burn. -- its_not_wrong
Mohinder: I did it all for you!
Maya: REJECTED! -- mydnight_dreams
Maya is gone without dying? I don’t believe it. Not on this show. -- starvinbohemian
Now, when Arthur de-powered Maya and she decides to go home, I started twitching uncontrollably. So, the whole point of her character was to act as transportation to get Sylar up from Mexico, and then as a catalyst for Mohinder to get on the synthetic powers train. Her character wasn’t important, and her powers, for all they made of them, weren’t that important either. That poor girl was just a random plot point in a pretty body. I need to go beat someone senseless now. -- jaune_chat
Peter and Sylar (and Angela)
Clearly it didn't take Sylar long to catch on to the time-honored Petrelli tradition of slightly-creepy-possibly-inappropriate displays of familial affection. -- fifmeister
Okay, I admit Sylar's abrupt change from Son-of-a-Bitch to Son-of-the-Year makes a tad bit of sense, with his mommy issues and all. That was some quick switching over to Dad's side, though; well, he saved Peter, so maybe he's channeling Chuck and going nerd-spy on us. -- shockd
How did the most awesome villain I can remember in ages devolve into a puddle of insecurity who needs more validation than a parking meter?
Oh thank heaven, he hasn't totally drank the kool-aid. For a second there with his 'listening to whoever was the last person I talked to' thing, I thought Sylar had become Mohinder. -- alicebluegown16
Favourite. Oh, Mama, you just said the magic words. -- hariboo_smirks
"You came for me." the slash fic, it writes itself. "it's what brothers do." the Petrellicest fic, it writes itself. The Petrelli boys, taking Bromance to a whole new level. […] Oh, god, you two. Seriously. Make more eyes at each other. -- hariboo_smirks
Didn't hit as hard as he should have? Oh, Papa? Or Slyar? If the latter this just proves that Sylar is soooo much better at infiltration than Peter is. -- hariboo_smirks
I love that Sylar was all. "Peter brothers help each other, I need to save you." It just screamed incest of the bad touch variety. Then Monhinder had to tackle Sylar and I squeed until I broke a glass. Poor Sylar *pets him* This is what happens when you cheat on people honey, they go monster and try to rape you in front of your new boyfriend. -- godiloveslash
Peter, remember that girl with the illusions? And how your boyfriend Adam turned out to be evil? Stop accepting people. Poor Peter. Now he’s dumb and powerless. Though this might make him less of a danger to others. -- tessykins
Sylar: "That is what brothers do Peter, they look out for each other." [And] Nathan, almost cockroach food, who is looking out for him? -- ilikethequiet
I'm interested to see where Sylar goes from here. I hope he's back to his bad-ass self again, though I'm not quite buying it seeing as he apparently stopped Peter from making a glorious splat-mark on the pavement. -- toestastegood
Either way, with both [Sylar] and Mohinder supposedly working for Mr Petrelli now, I'm looking forward to seeing them interacting again. And beating the crap out of each other. And Sylar going "ewww" when he sees Mohinder's rash. 'cause, dude, THAT'S enough to kill a 'ship. -- toestastegood
Peter depowered? I was wondering when the writers were going to do this. Everyone has been saying that they would have no choice, but I feel this is still the lazy way. I want to see the writers deal with the trouble they made for themselves by making him ridiculously powerful. -- starvinbohemian
Peter/Nathan, Peter/Mohinder, Peter/Elle (clearly, I would ship Peter with toast if that was an option) -- starvinbohemian
Oh, the Chest Button of Self-Righteousness! It pops! (Seriously, where was the superman insignia?) -- tiptoe39
LOL SYLAR <3z PETER. BROS BEFORE HOS. -- filpbeter
Peter needs to stop having sexual tension with EVERYTHING THAT MOVES. -- flipbeter
Peter’s popping out of his shirt. Ratings go up. Peter’s strapped to a table. Ratings go up again. Mohinder starts talking pseudo-science. Ratings go down. -- brighteyed_jill
Peter even sucks at escaping. Oh, poor baby. I’m starting to think he was a really incompetent nurse. They put him on hospice duty because he was killing people anyway. -- brighteyed_jill
Arthur
Arthur is just plain scary. What kind of father watches his son get pushed out a seven-story window and reacts with nothing but, "O hay! Wonder how he survived that fall?" I'm starting to think that out of all the Petrellis, the reformed serial killer is the best parent by far. If that's not freaky, I don't know what is. -- fifmeister
What the hell is the point of Pinehearst? After seeing them "fix" Maya, it became clear to me that Pinehearst is just Company 2.0, which Papa Petrelli was already involved in. Why the hell would he go to the trouble of faking his death just to set up another company when he could have just stepped in as the head of the first company and then did whatever he wanted? Apparently, he's the biggest badass to ever badass, so taking over shouldn't have been a problem. This makes no sense. -- starvinbohemian
Meanwhile in Petrelli Awesome Town, we get a few groovy flashbacks, and then Peter wakes up IN BONDAGE AGAIN. Arthur, you're fabulous. Robert Forster has the best accent ever, really. It almost makes up for lines like "Until you change that attitude, you're grounded." Um. Okay. -- mystery_sock
Arthur goes in and lays hands on Maya, who convulses all over the place, then happily gives up her power to the Baddest Daddy In All The Land. -- mystery_sock
Arthur tells [Daphne] that she needs to recruit Parkman - or, better yet, just kill him. Maury flips out, and tries to play the "If it wasn't for me, you'd still be lying in a palatial bed with a tube in your dick!" Naturally, Arthur casually breaks his neck. -- mystery_sock
ANOTHER ONE BITES THE DUST. Arthur totally bitchslapped Maury to death. -- flipbeter
The Fantastic Four: Nathan, Tracy, Noah and Meredith
Nathan standing between Meredith and Tracy. His expression was that of man who is doing all he can to prevent blurting out “Sooooo, threesome? Yes? No? Too soon? It’s too soon, isn’t it? How ‘bout now? Is now good?” -- alicebluegown16
“Wait, you’re saying our dad is actually alive? That’s just crazy talk, Peter! And I think my girlfriend who can freeze things and my recently acquired illegitimate daughter who can heal from any injury will back me up on this.” -- alicebluegown16
Tracy accepts the Human Flamethrower baby mama. Accepts the illegitimate kid. Accepts the illegitimate kid’s adoptive parent who is holding a gun and wants to take you in for “testing.” Accepts the potential father-in-law who has returned from the dead and is evil. Accepts the brother you can’t keep from touching and who is always shirtless. And she is able to come up with a plan that doesn’t involve knocking down doors, going in guns blazing, and likely getting your fool ass killed.
Nathan if you don’t put a ring on that girl’s finger, I will. -- alicebluegown16
Ewwwww HRG don't go there. And now he mentions Mohinder eggs (not the Cadbury variation I assume), he's so going there. -- canadian_turtle
Why is that people on this show never have a plan? They are always charging into dangerous situations and are like "I DON'T NEED A PLAN, I'M SPECIAL!". Like I was screaming at Nathan not to go to Pinehearst. I think as the character gets more attractive, their intelligence goes down. -- its_not_wrong
Noah is awesome, and then Meredith is a bitch. She has no entitlement to that attitude, since the last time she saw Nathan, she was swindling him out of a lot of money. So, shut up, Meredith. -- tessykins
Meredith tries to outbitch Tracy, but Tracy totally shuts her down. I really like Tracy, and I don’t want to because of the stupid clone shit. Damn you, Tracy! -- tessykins
Oh look awkward moment for Nathan with the other woman and the other other woman (Neither of them who are actually, you know, his WIFE) -- ilikethequiet
Tracy gets the points though for saying that her and Nathan weren't together. Way to see a one night stand for what it was. -- mydnight_dreams
Meredith, why do you feel the need to keep being all: "Y HALLO THAR, REMEMBER THAT I'M FLAMY HANDZ" every fucking time you're on screen?
We all know what you can do. Really, we got it from before, and the 2745739832489723 times you've done it to remind us that yes, you have the power of pryokinesis. And when you're consistently showing everyone that 'HEY LOOK WHAT I CAN DO' ala Stewart from SNL, it just makes me wonder why you're here. Especially when you never USE your ability beyond "LOOK AT MY PRETTY HANDS." -- greyelveneyes
Does Nathan still technically have a job as a junior senator? Doesn’t that, like, require actual work? -- starvinbohemian
Meredith: Girl needs to freaking stop with the fire-hands! WE GET IT. She can generate fire. We didn’t forget, okay? -- starvinbohemian
Har har har HRG and eggs. He's so bitter about Mohinder. That's adorable. -- shimmeree
Tracy laughs with the whole audience at the absurdity of the Petrelli family tree. Tracy would totally kick Meredith’s ass in a fight. Also, Meredith continues to flame every time she enters the room. Just in case anyone’s forgotten she’s “special.” -- brighteyed_jill
Clearly the writers were a little flummoxed at what to do with a reasonably intelligent character, so they slipped Tracy half of one of Mohinder’s stupid pills. I can think of no other reason why, after sitting there calmly and placidly for hours with Nathan waiting for the Company people, she’d suddenly decide to go play with the webbing victims. -- jaune_chat
Tracy seems to have forgotten that her twin sister was an internet stripper that had sex with Nathan. And if she did any background research on him before making him a senator, she should know that technically he’s still married (I think, I don’t recall them taking about divorce in S2) with children. Also, do recall he has a teenage daughter to boot. Remember Tracy, Nathan’s a very sexy man-whore with a penchant for touching his brother, so just walk into this with open eyes! -- jaune_chat
Daphne and Matt
Which brings me to dear old Matt. I feel so bad for him and his ability to never find a steady relationship. Although, it was kinda cute how he called his boyfriend domestic life partner, Mohinder, only to leave him a very Heroes-ish type attempt at irony: "You won't believe the week I just had" Matt proclaims, unaware of how Mohinder has caught a rare STD and is now into necrophilia. Poor Matt. And I really, really want Matt/Daphne to work, wow you guys I hate het but it's so cute. BUT NO SHE'S PLAYING HIM. RAGE. -- its_not_wrong
The whole bit with Matt and Daphne was just predictable. I wonder why... Oh! Maybe it's because we saw the same fucking thing last week! You know, when Hiro used his powers to fake someone's death. Was I really supposed to gasp in shock when Matt and Daphne "died"? Honestly. Just because the writers often forget what each character can do, it doesn't mean we all do. -- egoteprovoco
Oh, and apparently Daphne was so terribly sneaky that she fooled Matt. Lucky for her that he doesn't try to READ HER MIND! Jeez, wouldn't it be nice if someone on this show knew how to READ MINDS? -- egoteprovoco
Matt and Daphne concoct a really good plan. Like, surprisingly intelligent. And I totally fell for it at first. I was like, NOOO! Not my one favorite couple! And Matt pulled off scary! It was awesome. And the punching through the chest. I’m a fan of that killing style. But I’m so glad Daphne and Matt are still alive and running around together. And their awesome little kiss. Though I’m less thrilled that Daphne is a double agent. -- tessykins
Meanwhile, Daphne is morally graying out and is still in Arthur's pocket. She calls him up from the House of M while Matt's around the corner, apparently semi-deaf as well as dyslexic. (Yeah, where's Matt's dyslexia? Did they forget?) -- mystery_sock
OK, Matt? You are all man, and I love you. And I am wondering if I can get Daphne and you and Mohinder and Sylar to be all one big polyamorous family, because you're ALL meant to be with each other. THIS EPISODE IS RUINING MY ABILITY TO SHIP. Seriously, Heroes, your characters should just all be in one continuous orgy. -- tiptoe39
Claire and Elle (or the fairly unanimous agreement of “Claire/Elle”)
Also, when she totally pwned Claire with "You can't feel pain? Pfft, I wish I had your problems," I kind of wanted to kiss the ground beneath her feet and thank her profusely for saying what I've been thinking pretty much all season. -- fifmeister
"You're fine, you're perfect." Elle says, spurring many, MANY fanfics. […]
"All right Dorothy. Then we're off to the see the wizard." *giggles* Yay for a Veronica Mars reference! You just know she's gonna nickname Mr. Muggles 'Backup' in a couple episodes. -- aunt_zelda
And the way they stopped the plane from crashing? CLAIRE AND ELLE HELD HANDS. No lie. You know I'm sure I read that in a fanfic somewhere. -- krilymcc
Then, they decided to put Elle on an airplane. Who didn't see disaster coming there? And could someone please explain electricity to the writers? It wouldn't go into Claire and *stop* - it would travel *through* Claire and into the plane. Electricity's funny like that. -- egoteprovoco
God, Claire’s smug little smile when Elle shocks her. Fantastic. Claire likes having the power. I’m totally into dom!Claire now. Elle is totally her bitch. Did I mention that hair-pulling is one of my major Eclaire kinks? Yeah, total porn for me. -- tessykins
They put their trust in each other and they spark. And then they sit together, hand clasped, flushed and panting. It’s exactly what they look like after crazy monkey sex. The celebratory grins! Immediately afterward, they have sex in the airplane bathroom. Canon. Trufax. -- tessykins
And Elle channeling her electricity into Claire was the BEST. THING. EVER, even though it was idiotic to take her on a plane in the first place; the sweating and panting and smiling and eeeeee. It reminded me of the Tara/Willow scene in S4 in which they do a spell together - and that one was intended to be their first sex scene. In short, my fondness for Elle/Claire has evolved into full-blown shipping. -- ibroketuesday
I like how Claire's clearly too used to attempts on her life to even care about it anymore. BITCH you nearly killed my boyfriend and my brother and you invaded my home and attacked me! So can I help you, or what? -- vejiicakes
I want the Claire of yore, the one with the sad smile and the sunshine personality and the good hair. Come back, good hair. I'm begging you. Please. -- shimmeree
Sandra and Lyle (because they deserved their own section!)
"If she gives you any lip, just toss a glass of water on her, Lyle-style."
First of all: 'LYLE-STYLE' FTW!
Second: Sandra, really now … ‘gives you any lip’? That’s no way to speak when there are rabid fangirls running around … -- aunt_zelda
Lyle: "Bitch is back." Oh Lyle, one line every 5 episodes, but they rock. Hard. -- candian_turtle
Lyle the most randomest guy in the world threw a bucket of water over Elle *waves Team!Lyle flags* -- ilikethequiet
Lyle Lyle Lyle Lyle. I ♥ you. First you prove that your’re not 6 by calling Elle a bitch. Then? you show that unpowered people are AWESOME! by going all wicked witch of the west on Elle and pouring water on her. That’s right you can be the man of the house without sneaking into Dad's closet and stealing his taser. Oh and good job NOT hiding in the closet when your home is invaded. Clearly its a good thing you weren't adopted because you have brains. -- deepwonderment
LYLE HAS THE BEST LINE OF THE FIRST SEGMENT. Oh, Lyle. I hope you get a superpower in Season Four. -- tiptoe39
Hiro and Ando and Usutu
Speaking of things Lost, I love how they totally stole African!Isaac's magical vision-giving potion gunk straight from the stuff that Locke gave Boone way back in season one--that pasty stuff that made Boone hallucinate the monster eating Shannon. Maybe Hiro will be seeing polar bears next? -- fifmeister
Ok, so basically African Isaac put Hiro on the paste because Hiro refuses to go back to the past and fix everything the easy way? Ten to one, the season finale is going to be Hiro owning up, going back, changing something, and returning to the ‘now’ to find everything drastically changed, possibly for the better. This means that everything happening now is going to be undone, which explains why most of the plots this season suck: they’re going to be erased soon. -- aunt_zelda
Oh, African!Isaac, you are much more cryptic than original flavour Isaac. -- cupcakery
OOOh, so Hiro timetravels again. What wacky fun will he get up to now? *cough*bring Adam back*cough* -- hariboo_smirks
Hiro and Ando we didn't see that much of this week, but what we did see was cuter then cute. I swear these two must have eaten a truck load of fluffy bunnies or something, because every time they are onscreen my brain turns to mush and I giggle nonstop like I've just eaten 1,000 Pixie Stixs. -- godiloveslash
Ah, Ando and Hiro are peer-pressured into taking Rafiki’s magical drug paste. -- tessykins
Anyway, Hiro and Ando are having a bowl with Usutu, dosing up with the future-seeing paste, because it's safer than time travel. It's true! Don't take plane trips; take acid trips! Usutu tells them what it's like to take psychadelics - dose, then wait. -- mystery_sock
Miscellaneous Thoughts and People
I wonder if Arthur will meet his remaining grandchild, now Nathan's sons have been retconned into not existing. -- alias_sqbr
Demons! There are demons at Bennet's! Wait wrong show. I'm conditioned, you guys. Anyways, flicking lights are always bad news. -- schtroumph_c
I love how Primatech became the good guys. -- schtroumph_c
So basically, everyone can go and see the future now? Heroes: COME SEE THE FUTURE, all you have to do is find your way to the middle of the dust bowl in Africa and eat some poo! Disclaimer: You have to eat poo. You must also find your spirit animal. No guarantees on how awesome your animal may be. It might be a turtle. Which is a metaphor, for just how slow you are. -- its_not_wrong
ALSO: WHY IS NO ONE FREAKING OUT ABOUT THE EXISTENCE OF CLAUDE, and how he is in England creating his own band of merry heroes??? -- its_not_wrong
And what happened in that nice dream sequence between Angela and Sylar Gabriel? First, since when can she appear to people in their dreams? Second, how can she do it while trapped in her own mind? Third - and by far the worst - the only thing that Sylar needed to escape from the power-neutralizing nose tube was to believe he could? Are you kidding me?!?! What the hell was going on in the writers' room?
Writer 1: "So then, just as Mohinder's going to inject Peter with something, Sylar bursts in, TKs everyone, and saves the day!
Writer 2: "Excellent! But, uh, isn't Sylar supposed to be imprisoned in Level 5?"
Writer 1: "No problem. We'll have Angela find him and let him out."
Writer 2: "But Angela's trapped in a hallucination, isn't she?"
Writer 1: "Jesus, you're a buzz-kill. You think anyone will even remember that?
Writer 2: "Uh, she can't move, but she can dream herself at him and give him the confidence to escape."
Writer 1: "Dude, that's beautiful. The healing power of a mother's love. If you can dream it you can do it. So inspirational." -- egoteprovoco
I STILL WANT ADAM BACK. There has to be a way. Like...Hiro goes back in time and snatches a past version of Adam and brings him to this present. Explains everything away, Adam stays for the season, and at the end, the Haitian has to wipe his memory before Hiro puts him back to his own timeline. I mean, THINK ABOUT IT. The epicness of that friendship-to-betrayal-to-friendship-to-mindwipe!betrayal-again just...dude. And you can bring Isaac along with you, btw. I'm not abject to more Mystery Sock...
Okay, TPTB, go ahead and copy that idea. We all know you're around here somewhere, ganking any cracked out, weird-ass theories from us that you can get your grabby little hands on. D:< -- greyelveneyes
[The Show] wasn't always "Hey, super sekrit company organizations that work to do way more than mundane things, wanna work here?" and "Hey, EVERYONE IS ADOPTED AND, OH YEAH, YOU'RE ALL ORIGINALLY A PETRELLI" and "Oh look, everything is APOCALYPTIC NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO IT WILL ALWAYS BE THE WORLD ENDING!" -- greyelveneyes
Masi and Greg beatboxing was made of utter and absolute win. Even if I end up hating this show, I’ll never stop loving its cast. -- nowhack
Maury cared about his son ? Huh. News to me. Wait, he’s dead! Fuck you, writers. Now you’re just killing people for shock value. -- starvinbohemian
Eris quod sum Which means, btw, “I am what you will be.” Usually used as an epitaph. Is it me, or are the titles several degrees more pretentious this season? We've now gone from "pretentious poetry-quoting bohemian" to "pretentious Latin-quoting classics major or law student." -- brighteyed_jill
And various combination(s) of everyone (A.K.A any and all of the inappropriate sexual tension that holds this show together)
That aside, I really did like this episode. There was a lot of slash. And I mean a lot of slash: Claire saved a plane by holding Elle’s hand, Mohinder jumped Sylar’s bones, Sylar let Mohinder live TWO MORE TIMES (someone ought to be keeping a tally here), there was oodles enough Petrellicest to keep the incest-fangirls squeeing for the next two weeks, Matt returned to the House of M, Meredith and Tracey met (can you spell ‘opposite element fanfics?’), and Daphne and Matt bonded (if you put a ‘/’ between their names it’s a kind of slash … I like them, shut up.) -- aunt_zelda
I mean, I know Matt's desperate to see Mohinder for affection, but he totally jumped into that role the future!vision showed him... despite the fact Hiro will probably go back in time and thereby alter everything in existence. Again. -- shockd
Did you notice that Matt rang Mohinder the second he got home, but Mohinder seems to have completely forgotten he existed? One of them doesn't get totally distracted by a new girlfriend and the threat of death... Admitedly, there may be a note on the fridge saying "Matt: where are you? Am turning into an evil cockroach. Please remember to take out the trash when you get back.- Mohinder" -- alias_sqbr
Sylar and Peter taking the time to have some Petrelli-cest eye fucking. Mohinder climbing on top of Sylar, straddling him, and bashing his head in. “You! Do! Not! Have! Inappropriate! Chemistry! With Others! Why haven’t you returned my calls? Have you been letting other people inject you? Have you? Answer me!” -- alicebluegown16
Sylar whining about how this all about him being abandoned by the family. Missing the effing point, sweetie! Good god, how impossibly more fucked up would Peter and Sylar have been if they’d grown up together and had Angela and Arthur playing metaphysical tug-of-war with them all those years? Family game nights would have ended in bloodshed, I’m sure. -- alicebluegown16
I'm just waiting for the whole Petrelli family to be in one room together. And I like the fact that Peter's in shock after losing his powers. It's like a battlefield amputation. Hey there with the Nietzsche, Pa. WTF grounded. -- cupcakery
Nice parallels there, show, with the Peter falling several stories because of Gabriel and not quite dying. Oh yeah, he totally slowed him down on purpose because he is playing all of them and will flounce off in the end, going "la la la~" after fingerpainting in someone's blood again and everyone will be all D: how could we have been so fooled!? And then HRG will be all TOLD YOU SO and Claire will be miffed about Gabriel being her uncle and Nathan will actually check himself into a psych ward because of all of the dying and seeing dead!Linderman and his family in general. That is how the season will end. -- cupcakery
Ok so the narrator guy tells us that Peter fell victim to his father. Is it just me or does that sound like there was bad touching going on that didn't involve power sucking? Now I understand why there's so much Petrellicest going on, it's what they grew up around. -- krilymcc
Although, all of those sweet, cuddly "we're brothers and we love each other" scenes kind of make me want to throw up. Petrellis really put family first, huh? Even though they have to be the worst family in the history of the world. In what other family can you kill your brothers *repeatedly* and still like each other? -- egoteprovoco
Has anyone bothered to tell Nathan that Sylar's his brother? I know that Peter told him all about their Dad being alive, and mentioned that Sylar saved him, but does Nathan know the really big news? Does Claire yet? If not, isn't that the sort of thing that Peter should have included in his story? -- egoteprovoco
Elle and Claire are walking towards the building when Peter plummets to the sidewalk. What if some unsuspecting bystander had been walking by? That’d be weird. -- tessykins
I have this crazy theory that once Elle sees Sylar at Pinehearst, she flees to New York City. On her way to Peter’s apartment, she runs into Claude, who has followed her from London. She and Claude arrive at Peter’s apartment just after Nathan and Tracy leave. There are awkward reunions all around. And then Claude hits Peter with a stick (the traditional Plaude greeting) and then takes him off to the bedroom to “tend to his wounds”. Embarrassed by their uncle-figures having sex in the next room, Elle and Claire are still unable to resist making out. And that’s how the next episode should start. -- tessykins
There were finally some repercussions being shown, and EARTH LOGIC being used. Sylar throwing Peter out of the window to get in good with Arthur and to - most likely - try to take him down later, Arthur noticing that Sylar didn’t kill Peter, Mohinder beating the shit out of Sylar because really, he has every right in the world to do so, Claire letting Elle channel her electricity through her, Maya leaving Mohinder, Matt using his power on Knox, Noah coming to the loft, and Nathan wanting to go take Pinehearst down. WHEW. -- nowhack
In the lab of Mohinder's Character Assassination, Nathan and Tracy argue with Mo, and Nathan puts the smack down. So Mohinder spiders out, grabs Maya, and jumps out. -- mystery_sock
Arthur calmly walks over to Mo and advises him to stop, and informs Mohinder that Sylar is his son. MAJOR SOCIAL FAUX-PAS, MOHINDER. (and also, that answers THAT paternity question. Or does it? Claire is Sandra and Noah's daughter, but she's not related to them; I'm not implying that Sylar was adopted or anything, but Peter's paternity is still, more or less, in question. No, I will not rest until I have the whole Petrelli family tree mapped out.) -- mystery_sock
OMG! It was like the return of every OTP ever! Matt/Mohinder! Peter/Mohinder! Sylar/Peter! Nathan/Peter! Sylar/Mohinder! Elle/Claire! My little slash-lovin' heart was about to burst, y'all. -- candidlily
Peter is shirtless in bed and Claire is giving him a sponge bath? Are you for real right now? Somewhere, a Paire shipper's head is exploding. -- brighteyed_jill
I love how he grabs Maya and leaps into the night, and Nathan stands there like, “Wha?” Dude, you can FLY! If you’re so concerned about saving Maya and maybe taking Crazy!Mohinder off the streets, maybe you could go after them. Take Tracy, because it’s clear she’s good in a fight. Or maybe Nathan doesn’t want to save anyone unless the reward involves sex, really close hugging, or both. And Maya’s secondhand goods and Mohinder has lost his boyish charm during the latest round of involuntary bondage. -- jaune_chat
When Claire and Sandra pull up to the lights flickering and Lyle (hey, someone remembered he exists!) out on the floor, I started banging my head on the table. How many break-ins have they had now? I said it before, this family is flypaper for freaks. Get an alarm system, a butch Great Dane to bodyguard for Mr. Muggles, some freaking Home Alone tar-and-nails types of traps, or even a deadbolt, just KEEP PEOPLE OUT OF YOUR HOUSE! Work with me here people! -- jaune_chat
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