Re: elliptic_eyeelliptic_eyeJanuary 6 2008, 20:56:23 UTC
The best thing that you can do is say what you like about them and that will be great or I guess you could look at more art and then you'd be able to compare.
I suppose what I really mean is that I have a hard time understanding what I do like about it, though you have an excellent point about getting a better understanding through a survey. I'll take a swing at it with the second one:
I like the angle of her head, and the way the shadows have fairly distinct gradations or even borders, and the veins of red running through from her wrist across her face, connecting things. And I like the way the light falls in her eyes. But I'm not able to say why I like any of these, or what if anything they have to do with each other.
I try and stay away from that sort of speak.
I know the feeling. I think. Though there can be something in it. I'm a musician, so I read a lot of papers and books about music, and, oh, Lord, there is nothing more frustrating than reading stuff that's nothing but pet theories and jargon for the sake of it (well, there is one thing worse: discovering you're doing it yourself). But there's also little more gratifying than a really masterful paper that can find a language for talking about music and use it to actually show something new and exciting. I suppose it must be similar in the visual arts…
Re: elliptic_eyehermitsrmeJanuary 7 2008, 00:16:18 UTC
Cheers.
i can understand why you like the pieces in the image that you like and thanks for telling me.
in a way it complicated and it is also simple. ummm, let me see if i can explain it without taking anything away from it. lets say there are three images side by side. 1 is an image of a huge red dot that takes up almost all of the page. not really inspiring and in fact you leave it after 5 seconds. 2 has two dots both the same colour and they have an arrow in the centre of each pointing at the other. this has a bit more interest in it but still you only look at it for 8 - 10 seconds 3 is more complicated there are 3 red dots but they are 3 different sizes and inside each of these dots are a dot that are the same size as each other and the are green, these green dots are all connected by 7 or eight lines of pastel orange hued lines which meander across towards each dot in a drunken fashion. Also the background is white but after a while you notice that there are pale off white words written. You have probably spent a minute or more on this image. What I am trying to say is that a certain amount of information will capture people and the placement of shape and colour can lead the eye around the image, thus keeping peoples interest. Hence your eye following 'the veins of red running through from her wrist across her face, connecting things.' In a way it is a journey. In the example the first has no journey, the secon is a dull journey but the third has a little bit more so creates interest. Does that make a bit of sense?
Ahhhh, a musician, that's cool. '(well, there is one thing worse: discovering you're doing it yourself).'This is a fear of mine and I may have just shown an example above.
Yes, it is similar in the visual arts… Some people have tried to connect music and visual arts, Kandinsky being just one of them.
I suppose what I really mean is that I have a hard time understanding what I do like about it, though you have an excellent point about getting a better understanding through a survey. I'll take a swing at it with the second one:
I like the angle of her head, and the way the shadows have fairly distinct gradations or even borders, and the veins of red running through from her wrist across her face, connecting things. And I like the way the light falls in her eyes. But I'm not able to say why I like any of these, or what if anything they have to do with each other.
I try and stay away from that sort of speak.
I know the feeling. I think. Though there can be something in it. I'm a musician, so I read a lot of papers and books about music, and, oh, Lord, there is nothing more frustrating than reading stuff that's nothing but pet theories and jargon for the sake of it (well, there is one thing worse: discovering you're doing it yourself). But there's also little more gratifying than a really masterful paper that can find a language for talking about music and use it to actually show something new and exciting. I suppose it must be similar in the visual arts…
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i can understand why you like the pieces in the image that you like and thanks for telling me.
in a way it complicated and it is also simple.
ummm, let me see if i can explain it without taking anything away from it.
lets say there are three images side by side.
1 is an image of a huge red dot that takes up almost all of the page. not really inspiring and in fact you leave it after 5 seconds.
2 has two dots both the same colour and they have an arrow in the centre of each pointing at the other. this has a bit more interest in it but still you only look at it for 8 - 10 seconds
3 is more complicated there are 3 red dots but they are 3 different sizes and inside each of these dots are a dot that are the same size as each other and the are green, these green dots are all connected by 7 or eight lines of pastel orange hued lines which meander across towards each dot in a drunken fashion. Also the background is white but after a while you notice that there are pale off white words written. You have probably spent a minute or more on this image.
What I am trying to say is that a certain amount of information will capture people and the placement of shape and colour can lead the eye around the image, thus keeping peoples interest. Hence your eye following 'the veins of red running through from her wrist across her face, connecting things.' In a way it is a journey.
In the example the first has no journey, the secon is a dull journey but the third has a little bit more so creates interest.
Does that make a bit of sense?
Ahhhh, a musician, that's cool.
'(well, there is one thing worse: discovering you're doing it yourself).'This is a fear of mine and I may have just shown an example above.
Yes, it is similar in the visual arts…
Some people have tried to connect music and visual arts, Kandinsky being just one of them.
Cheers
hope I haven't rambled too much :)
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