Age of Ultron
So, last night myself and Himself got to go out and be adults thanks to 
smiley_b taking Nimoy for the evening, yay for godmothers everywhere! Therefore, we chose to go see Age of Ultron.
Thoughts under the cut, with the addendum that I do not read the comics, look at any of the TV stuff including AoS (I will, I swear, catch up) and have no knowledge other than what we see on the screen. (And also the Bill Bixby Hulk series which Himself is watching with Nimoy. She's five a half. But I digress.)
On the surface, I enjoyed it? I think. More than a lot of people in ye olde f-list appear to have, and how much of that is lowered expectations and how much is not knowing a lot of comics canon, I don't know. I have a feeling if I think about it too hard and look too deeply into it, it won't hold up well.
The Natasha/Bruce storyline... Yeah. Yeah. *sigh* that one came out of nowhere, huh? I mean, last we saw of her, I think, I could be wrong, was at the end of Winter Soldier where they seemed to spend the whole movie setting her up with Steve, after spending the whole first film setting her up with Clint. So then the whole lullaby and flirting stuff, I was like, did I miss something? (I mean, heavens to Betsy, it's like there's a Black Widow movie waiting to be told!) Natasha definitely got the short end of the stick wrt to writing and characterisation in this film, and Joss definitely carries the can on that... I don't exactly object to Bruce/Natasha per se, I actually feel like there's a story to be told vis-a-vis her feelings about her past, about what she was made to do, the red in her ledger she wants to wipe out, and his feelings about being the Hulk and the damage he can do. Which I think is what Joss was trying to get at with the whole "not the only monster in the room" line or whatever it was she said, but coming on the next breath after she's told Bruce she can't have kids, so that it looks like she's saying she's a monster because she can't have kids.... Unfortunate is the kind word for it. (The other words are did someone read that scene at all before they shot it?) The scene then at the party, where there was almost a noir vibe to the parts they were playing and the guy who done her wrong, and Steve turns into Bannerof Shipper Number One, it worked for me if I keep the context of, him not being able to believe that she's flirting with him (which MR did carry off well and given that he's playing a nerd and she looks like Scarlet Johnannson whose name I cannot spell, you could buy that!) and her flirting with him almost in spite of herself, like she's saying the lines because it's what Black Widow would do but then she realises its more than that? But I don't know...
The kiss and the "I adore you" before she throws him over a cliff... I'm now wondering how much of that was real?
And I didn't like the way he left at the end even if others in the MCU fandom way more than me have pointed out that that's what he does.
Other stuff... I liked Clint's family. I like that they were not fridged to further his man pain. This being a Joss show, I am surprised. Though I figured when she was pregnant, he wouldn't get away with that.
Tony making the Robots to protect the world because he's scared of what's out there... I'm sorry, did we not have some "Tony gets scared, fucks up, and makes amends" plot in Iron Man3? Did that not already play out?
There is never enough Rhodey in these films. I love Don Cheadle.
On that note, after the party scene? Where he and Maria are listening to Thor and Tony extol their ladies' virtues and totally mocking them? And you see them talking in a long shot the very next scene? I'm not the only one shipping them, am I?
That's probably a yes.
Also, because I've had to do it for someone else, Maria calmly using a tweezers to pick glass out of her feet? Then in heels in the next scene? #respect #toughasnails (my friend ended up on crutches. Never lose your shoes on a night out ladies.)
Nice to see Sam again, nice name drop or not for Bucky.... There should be more Sam in these movies too!
I like the new line up we saw at the end.
I did not get the nightmares and what they were meant to show us... Again, too many characters, too little time. There was a lot going on, and I think some streamlining of the story process could have been used.
Not going to get hugely into the whole Joss vs the Internet because others have already done it so well but I concur.
I'm sure other things will come back to me...
smiley_b taking Nimoy for the evening, yay for godmothers everywhere! Therefore, we chose to go see Age of Ultron.
Thoughts under the cut, with the addendum that I do not read the comics, look at any of the TV stuff including AoS (I will, I swear, catch up) and have no knowledge other than what we see on the screen. (And also the Bill Bixby Hulk series which Himself is watching with Nimoy. She's five a half. But I digress.)
On the surface, I enjoyed it? I think. More than a lot of people in ye olde f-list appear to have, and how much of that is lowered expectations and how much is not knowing a lot of comics canon, I don't know. I have a feeling if I think about it too hard and look too deeply into it, it won't hold up well.
The Natasha/Bruce storyline... Yeah. Yeah. *sigh* that one came out of nowhere, huh? I mean, last we saw of her, I think, I could be wrong, was at the end of Winter Soldier where they seemed to spend the whole movie setting her up with Steve, after spending the whole first film setting her up with Clint. So then the whole lullaby and flirting stuff, I was like, did I miss something? (I mean, heavens to Betsy, it's like there's a Black Widow movie waiting to be told!) Natasha definitely got the short end of the stick wrt to writing and characterisation in this film, and Joss definitely carries the can on that... I don't exactly object to Bruce/Natasha per se, I actually feel like there's a story to be told vis-a-vis her feelings about her past, about what she was made to do, the red in her ledger she wants to wipe out, and his feelings about being the Hulk and the damage he can do. Which I think is what Joss was trying to get at with the whole "not the only monster in the room" line or whatever it was she said, but coming on the next breath after she's told Bruce she can't have kids, so that it looks like she's saying she's a monster because she can't have kids.... Unfortunate is the kind word for it. (The other words are did someone read that scene at all before they shot it?) The scene then at the party, where there was almost a noir vibe to the parts they were playing and the guy who done her wrong, and Steve turns into Bannerof Shipper Number One, it worked for me if I keep the context of, him not being able to believe that she's flirting with him (which MR did carry off well and given that he's playing a nerd and she looks like Scarlet Johnannson whose name I cannot spell, you could buy that!) and her flirting with him almost in spite of herself, like she's saying the lines because it's what Black Widow would do but then she realises its more than that? But I don't know...
The kiss and the "I adore you" before she throws him over a cliff... I'm now wondering how much of that was real?
And I didn't like the way he left at the end even if others in the MCU fandom way more than me have pointed out that that's what he does.
Other stuff... I liked Clint's family. I like that they were not fridged to further his man pain. This being a Joss show, I am surprised. Though I figured when she was pregnant, he wouldn't get away with that.
Tony making the Robots to protect the world because he's scared of what's out there... I'm sorry, did we not have some "Tony gets scared, fucks up, and makes amends" plot in Iron Man3? Did that not already play out?
There is never enough Rhodey in these films. I love Don Cheadle.
On that note, after the party scene? Where he and Maria are listening to Thor and Tony extol their ladies' virtues and totally mocking them? And you see them talking in a long shot the very next scene? I'm not the only one shipping them, am I?
That's probably a yes.
Also, because I've had to do it for someone else, Maria calmly using a tweezers to pick glass out of her feet? Then in heels in the next scene? #respect #toughasnails (my friend ended up on crutches. Never lose your shoes on a night out ladies.)
Nice to see Sam again, nice name drop or not for Bucky.... There should be more Sam in these movies too!
I like the new line up we saw at the end.
I did not get the nightmares and what they were meant to show us... Again, too many characters, too little time. There was a lot going on, and I think some streamlining of the story process could have been used.
Not going to get hugely into the whole Joss vs the Internet because others have already done it so well but I concur.
I'm sure other things will come back to me...