IT WAS AWESOME! I love how the boys realise Charlie is basically them - seeking vengeance for dead parents, has sacrificed her very self to help good triumph etc. I think for Dean she's both a cautionary tale, and also a tantalizing reminder on how awesome it feels to give into the Mark.
I love Sam being all concerned and research and caring. And Dean barely holdingh it together. SALAD WILL NOT SAVE YOU DEAN.
And Charlie? At the end she forgives Dean, promises to help the boys, NAD WALKS OFF INTO THE WORLD TOTALLY ALONE. Freaking hero.
And yeah, when Charlie walked off at the end to go research and hopefully find the knowledge to help Dean, I couldn't help but think of her line in LARP where she says "I rescue the damsels around here!" Definitely the hero. :)
Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed this episode...but I kind of felt I just barely missed being flattened by the anvil from "Hunter Heroici" over the good Charlie/bad Charlie parallel to Dean right now...
When the two Charlies were laying next to each other outside the house after the Wizard is killed, I was horrified that Charlie was going to die then...whew, incredibly relieved she didn't, but they totally freaked me out for a moment!
Weirdly, there was a snippet in the preview of Charlie reacting to Sam telling her about the MoC while in the car with Sam that never showed up in the episode!
It's true. SPN is the most anvil-y show to every throw anvils. I've made peace with the fact that sometimes those anvils are quite heavy. :P
Yeah, I was super concerned that Charlie was going to die - but, much like last week, when my friend was worried that Dean would kill Claire, I realized that having Dean beat Charlie to death was TOO dark for the show (even if she died because of the spell, the fact that Dean had beaten her right before would be too dark), so I wasn't THAT worried. I mean, I could have been wrong, but I wasn't, yay!
According to Robbie and Felicia, there was a scene in the car between Charlie and Sam that was cut. :( Hopefully it makes it to the DVD, but in the scene, Sam tells her about the MoC and Charlie tells Sam about her relationship with Dorothy in Oz... but I guess since it was exposition on things that the audience either didn't know, or didn't matter to the plot of the episode, it was the first to go when they needed to trim the episode.
Who were the other guest stars that drove Baby? Bobby. And..?
I thought that the wizard didn't age because...he's a wizard. In Oz, anyway. I would think that would be one of the first spells an evil wizard would accomplish; to live forever to enjoy the fruits of his evilness.
What I didn't understand was how Charlie got back to this dimension. I mean, did she come back through the bunker while the boys were out, and she just didn't tell them? Or did she show up somewhere else? Maybe they mentioned it, but if they did, I didn't notice.
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But isn't the point of the Wizard of Oz that he wasn't a wizard, aka that he was a regular guy who used technology to pretend he was a wizard. Or is that one of those things that Dorothy's father made up when he wrote those books?
I think that's the "trick" with how they've written Oz into the show - the fact that they can change facts about Oz and then claim that "Dorothy's father made that bit up" when they want to change something for the sake of the plot.
Andy from way back in S2 was the only ever person who successfully stole Baby - as far as I can remember anyway. So, he'd be another guest star... and then Matt Cohen has also driven her, of course. Though, I can't remember now if we ever see him drive, or if all his driving scenes were on the stationary car on set for interior-driving shots, so Matt might not count.
Charlie doesn't need to come through the Bunker when she returns from Oz. The key can make ANY door a door to Oz. So, I'm guessing that DarkCharlie could also show up anywhere on earth using the key (or another way to travel between Oz and Earth). So, you were right that they just didn't mention it.
I think the age difference between the wizard and Clive is because as they mentioned in the episode, time moves different in Oz, than it does on earth. Well that and the whole alternate dimension thing, which probably affects aging in some way or another.
Yeah, but I'm just thinking about how the bodies share physical damage - aging is actually physical damage. That's what it is. So, it doesn't make sense to me that one body could age and the other body could stay young. In my opinion, winkles, arthritis, liver-spots, grey hair...they're all the same as that scar on the guy's face.
So, it's not that I believe that the wizard should have aged - but whatever magic/time-dimension-thing that was keeping him young, should have also kept Clive young.
But, it's a really stupid thing to be nitpicky about, so it's not a big deal. :P
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I love Sam being all concerned and research and caring. And Dean barely holdingh it together. SALAD WILL NOT SAVE YOU DEAN.
And Charlie? At the end she forgives Dean, promises to help the boys, NAD WALKS OFF INTO THE WORLD TOTALLY ALONE. Freaking hero.
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And yeah, when Charlie walked off at the end to go research and hopefully find the knowledge to help Dean, I couldn't help but think of her line in LARP where she says "I rescue the damsels around here!" Definitely the hero. :)
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When the two Charlies were laying next to each other outside the house after the Wizard is killed, I was horrified that Charlie was going to die then...whew, incredibly relieved she didn't, but they totally freaked me out for a moment!
Weirdly, there was a snippet in the preview of Charlie reacting to Sam telling her about the MoC while in the car with Sam that never showed up in the episode!
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Yeah, I was super concerned that Charlie was going to die - but, much like last week, when my friend was worried that Dean would kill Claire, I realized that having Dean beat Charlie to death was TOO dark for the show (even if she died because of the spell, the fact that Dean had beaten her right before would be too dark), so I wasn't THAT worried. I mean, I could have been wrong, but I wasn't, yay!
According to Robbie and Felicia, there was a scene in the car between Charlie and Sam that was cut. :( Hopefully it makes it to the DVD, but in the scene, Sam tells her about the MoC and Charlie tells Sam about her relationship with Dorothy in Oz... but I guess since it was exposition on things that the audience either didn't know, or didn't matter to the plot of the episode, it was the first to go when they needed to trim the episode.
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Who were the other guest stars that drove Baby? Bobby. And..?
I thought that the wizard didn't age because...he's a wizard. In Oz, anyway. I would think that would be one of the first spells an evil wizard would accomplish; to live forever to enjoy the fruits of his evilness.
What I didn't understand was how Charlie got back to this dimension. I mean, did she come back through the bunker while the boys were out, and she just didn't tell them? Or did she show up somewhere else? Maybe they mentioned it, but if they did, I didn't notice.
I love your reviews. Sometimes I miss the beginning of the episode due to working until 9:00, so you help me catch up!
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Charlie doesn't need to come through the Bunker when she returns from Oz. The key can make ANY door a door to Oz. So, I'm guessing that DarkCharlie could also show up anywhere on earth using the key (or another way to travel between Oz and Earth). So, you were right that they just didn't mention it.
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So, it's not that I believe that the wizard should have aged - but whatever magic/time-dimension-thing that was keeping him young, should have also kept Clive young.
But, it's a really stupid thing to be nitpicky about, so it's not a big deal. :P
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