I mean, there was so much torturing this season, I really thought it was going to be a "thing"...but I suppose it's just a coincidence.
Me too. And I'm really sad that they didn't use this awesome setting for some line about Dean again torturing. The only thing Sam was worried about (or said he was, at least) was the drinking and coffee and not-sleeping. But how about some line (maybe when he was praying to Cas?) about how that must fuck up Dean's mind? Or are we all pretending he never learned to torture in Hell and is just happy and dandy now that he did it again topside? I mean, it seemed to be a big deal to Dean when he confronted 2014Dean. So I'm really pissed that they drop all that.
BUT maybe they'll use it later? I hope so. But *sigh* I fear they really wanna erase that part of him. (so hoping not! *clings to trust in authors*)
"Then" and thought "Oh man, it better not be Lisa, because that would make NO sense." All we see is "Eleanor 1935" on the back of the photograph.Hee, me too. I thought when they spoke about the kid
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CARRY ON MY WAYWARD SON.... or how to pick out a Supernatural fan in a room: play this song, watch for crying.
Heeehee! I'll try that one day!
But wait! IT'S ALL IN HIS HEAD!
Ha! I knew something was fishy with "reality" when they once again chose the "Nite Owl Motel". I was kinda hoping that they would make a reference to "Live free or Twihard", but *sigh* not so much. (I realized while confirming my believe that the Nite Owl was used in that episode that it HAD been used before, in s5 (the one with Paris Hilton), so... I guess the Winchesters kinda like that chain?) Other than that, I really enjoyed the part about Sam finding his missing pieces.
And then T-REX! No...DEMON CLOUD! AND THE IMPALA FLIPS!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooo.............
seriously, one of the worst parts of the cliffy! They have to fix her again! (I'd really love to get one more Dean-banging-the-hell-out-of-his-car-scene, please! He's got reasons enough, I'd say)
Dean tries to placate Castiel - thank you, you were right, we were wrong...
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Ha! I knew something was fishy with "reality" when they once again chose the "Nite Owl Motel".
Yes, I was getting confused because I pay attention to locations for timelining reasons - and I saw "Castle Storage" and "The Nite Owl" and I was like, ok, Castle Storage was in 5x01, and the Nite Owl was in S6, but where they in the same town? I don't remember that...
seriously, one of the worst parts of the cliffy! They have to fix her again!
I know! Please more greasy t-shirted Winchesters in the scrapyard scenes... that'd be nice.
I couldn't help but be reminded of so many shows or movies where the cops try to talk the dangerous and unhinged maniac into giving up. Just saying...
Haha, same here.
I sure hope they're not going the "shove it all down and take a happy-pill"-way that Dean's going until now. See the thing is, I don't think they're ignoring this storyline. I think the fact that they keep bringing up how much Dean drinks - how Sam refuses to take the pills that Dean keeps offering him - how Sam disapproves of the pills.
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See the thing is, I don't think they're ignoring this storyline. I think the fact that they keep bringing up how much Dean drinks - how Sam refuses to take the pills that Dean keeps offering him - how Sam disapproves of the pills. If they were ignoring the PTSD altogether, they wouldn't keep bringing it up...similarly to having Cas turn out to be a stoner in 2014!verse...there are consequences to repression and I'm not sure that they're ignoring that.Yeah, that's my impression too. The hints are there, but it wouldn't be the only time they'd just let them drop for the sake of some other story. But if you're still believing in them, I'll keep my faith a bit longer
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really? Does smoking produce laugh-lines???? Shit.
Smoking makes your skin loose elasticity faster - so (and I don't know their actual ages) if Misha and Seb are the same age, and Seb has way more wrinkles (which he does), then I would put it to smoking (because he looks like a smoker too). They're laugh lines because Seb laughs a lot - but if he were Frowny McFrownerton, he'd have frown lines. :P
But if you're still believing in them, I'll keep my faith a bit longer.
I always keep my faith until the very end really...so, you can take my faith with a grain of salt. But yeah, I'll wait and see how they deal with post-Hell Sam before I make any judgments about them dropping storylines.
It's like: "Hey, how about a new angel who is kinda bad - No, make him Cas' friend - No, make him rogue - No, make him still help Cas - NO! Make him suddenly fall in with the Winchesters"YES! This is exactly my problem with him too, and why I never connected. He was too wild-card. He had a good sense of humour, but other than that I felt very little
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The only thing Sam was worried about (or said he was, at least) was the drinking and coffee and not-sleeping. But how about some line (maybe when he was praying to Cas?) about how that must fuck up Dean's mind? Or are we all pretending he never learned to torture in Hell and is just happy and dandy now that he did it again topside?
See, I think Sam commenting on the booze, coffee, and pills IS Sam commenting about the torture - because he's commenting on how Dean's slowly coming unhinged and that Dean isn't dealing with his issues well. It's Sam tiptoeing around the actual words, because he doesn't want to upset Dean further but he wants to get him out of that situation and he wants him healthier mentally - but, yeah, he can't actually bring it up directly, because he knows Dean, and Dean will just get defensive and more belligerent.
But yeah, I'll talk about this more in your second comment...
Sure, i could go with Dean being too tired to remember to step over the signs, but I cannot believe that the US is lacking in paint that
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See, I think Sam commenting on the booze, coffee, and pills IS Sam commenting about the torture - because he's commenting on how Dean's slowly coming unhinged and that Dean isn't dealing with his issues well. It's Sam tiptoeing around the actual words, because he doesn't want to upset Dean further but he wants to get him out of that situation and he wants him healthier mentally - but, yeah, he can't actually bring it up directly, because he knows Dean, and Dean will just get defensive and more belligerent.
Yes to that. I wouldn't comment on that face to face with the crazy guy with the knife! I was more thinking about later, when he prayed to Cas - but forget about that, it's nit-picky Dean-person-stuff that comes up. I usually moderate with that but sometimes, it breaks through.
I really wasn't that shocked by it or in disbelief. I mean, yes, I will concede that it was a convenient plot-device and they could have done things differently to the same effect - but I don't think it was THAT unbelievable.Maybe not for Dean or Sam. But
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Maybe. But come on... He should know that mistakes by now. It's STILL lazy writing if they let Dean keep this stupid John Winchester-trait even after he's seen more than once how much it fucks things up.
Haha, dude, have YOU ever tried to get rid of a f*cked-up personality trait?! It's not easy.
So, I think we're just going to have to disagree on this one...or, well, agree that Dean is a bit messed up and doesn't know how to talk about things properly - but disagree that it's lazy writing. ;)
Maybe not for Dean or Sam. But how can Bobby NOT have a permanent Devil's Trap in his storage-hall? Maybe one cut into the floor... Just sayin' (they were at Bobby's, weren't they?)
They were at Bobby's yeah - but I think Bobby keeps the more businessy side of his business free from occult references. I mean, he DOES actually RUN a scrapyard. It's not just for show.
it's nit-picky Dean-person-stuff that comes up. I usually moderate with that but sometimes, it breaks through.No worries! I did unfollow someone on twitter last night who was
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Haha, no worries, I'm not sure who it was. Hopefully they don't get too upset about having one less follower, but they were being ridiculous and quite frankly it was either unfollow them or slowly let the rage build up until I exploded and was mean or something.
I mean, your arguments are logical and valid. Whereas they wouldn't have been happy unless the show was renamed The Dean Show and every single scene had Dean and explored Dean's feelings and everything hinged on Dean's every action.
Uh, yeah...anyway, my point is that you are nothing like that. :P
Me too. And I'm really sad that they didn't use this awesome setting for some line about Dean again torturing. The only thing Sam was worried about (or said he was, at least) was the drinking and coffee and not-sleeping. But how about some line (maybe when he was praying to Cas?) about how that must fuck up Dean's mind? Or are we all pretending he never learned to torture in Hell and is just happy and dandy now that he did it again topside? I mean, it seemed to be a big deal to Dean when he confronted 2014Dean. So I'm really pissed that they drop all that.
BUT maybe they'll use it later? I hope so. But *sigh* I fear they really wanna erase that part of him. (so hoping not! *clings to trust in authors*)
"Then" and thought "Oh man, it better not be Lisa, because that would make NO sense." All we see is "Eleanor 1935" on the back of the photograph.Hee, me too. I thought when they spoke about the kid ( ... )
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CARRY ON MY WAYWARD SON.... or how to pick out a Supernatural fan in a room: play this song, watch for crying.
Heeehee! I'll try that one day!
But wait! IT'S ALL IN HIS HEAD!
Ha! I knew something was fishy with "reality" when they once again chose the "Nite Owl Motel".
I was kinda hoping that they would make a reference to "Live free or Twihard", but *sigh* not so much. (I realized while confirming my believe that the Nite Owl was used in that episode that it HAD been used before, in s5 (the one with Paris Hilton), so... I guess the Winchesters kinda like that chain?)
Other than that, I really enjoyed the part about Sam finding his missing pieces.
And then T-REX! No...DEMON CLOUD! AND THE IMPALA FLIPS!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooo.............
seriously, one of the worst parts of the cliffy! They have to fix her again! (I'd really love to get one more Dean-banging-the-hell-out-of-his-car-scene, please! He's got reasons enough, I'd say)
Dean tries to placate Castiel - thank you, you were right, we were wrong... ( ... )
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Yes, I was getting confused because I pay attention to locations for timelining reasons - and I saw "Castle Storage" and "The Nite Owl" and I was like, ok, Castle Storage was in 5x01, and the Nite Owl was in S6, but where they in the same town? I don't remember that...
seriously, one of the worst parts of the cliffy! They have to fix her again!
I know! Please more greasy t-shirted Winchesters in the scrapyard scenes... that'd be nice.
I couldn't help but be reminded of so many shows or movies where the cops try to talk the dangerous and unhinged maniac into giving up. Just saying...
Haha, same here.
I sure hope they're not going the "shove it all down and take a happy-pill"-way that Dean's going until now. See the thing is, I don't think they're ignoring this storyline. I think the fact that they keep bringing up how much Dean drinks - how Sam refuses to take the pills that Dean keeps offering him - how Sam disapproves of the pills. ( ... )
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Smoking makes your skin loose elasticity faster - so (and I don't know their actual ages) if Misha and Seb are the same age, and Seb has way more wrinkles (which he does), then I would put it to smoking (because he looks like a smoker too). They're laugh lines because Seb laughs a lot - but if he were Frowny McFrownerton, he'd have frown lines. :P
But if you're still believing in them, I'll keep my faith a bit longer.
I always keep my faith until the very end really...so, you can take my faith with a grain of salt. But yeah, I'll wait and see how they deal with post-Hell Sam before I make any judgments about them dropping storylines.
It's like: "Hey, how about a new angel who is kinda bad - No, make him Cas' friend - No, make him rogue - No, make him still help Cas - NO! Make him suddenly fall in with the Winchesters"YES! This is exactly my problem with him too, and why I never connected. He was too wild-card. He had a good sense of humour, but other than that I felt very little ( ... )
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See, I think Sam commenting on the booze, coffee, and pills IS Sam commenting about the torture - because he's commenting on how Dean's slowly coming unhinged and that Dean isn't dealing with his issues well. It's Sam tiptoeing around the actual words, because he doesn't want to upset Dean further but he wants to get him out of that situation and he wants him healthier mentally - but, yeah, he can't actually bring it up directly, because he knows Dean, and Dean will just get defensive and more belligerent.
But yeah, I'll talk about this more in your second comment...
Sure, i could go with Dean being too tired to remember to step over the signs, but I cannot believe that the US is lacking in paint that ( ... )
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Yes to that. I wouldn't comment on that face to face with the crazy guy with the knife! I was more thinking about later, when he prayed to Cas - but forget about that, it's nit-picky Dean-person-stuff that comes up. I usually moderate with that but sometimes, it breaks through.
I really wasn't that shocked by it or in disbelief. I mean, yes, I will concede that it was a convenient plot-device and they could have done things differently to the same effect - but I don't think it was THAT unbelievable.Maybe not for Dean or Sam. But ( ... )
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Haha, dude, have YOU ever tried to get rid of a f*cked-up personality trait?! It's not easy.
So, I think we're just going to have to disagree on this one...or, well, agree that Dean is a bit messed up and doesn't know how to talk about things properly - but disagree that it's lazy writing. ;)
Maybe not for Dean or Sam. But how can Bobby NOT have a permanent Devil's Trap in his storage-hall? Maybe one cut into the floor... Just sayin' (they were at Bobby's, weren't they?)
They were at Bobby's yeah - but I think Bobby keeps the more businessy side of his business free from occult references. I mean, he DOES actually RUN a scrapyard. It's not just for show.
it's nit-picky Dean-person-stuff that comes up. I usually moderate with that but sometimes, it breaks through.No worries! I did unfollow someone on twitter last night who was ( ... )
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*squeaks*
Wasn't me, don't hit me, I don't even have twitter! I swear!
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I mean, your arguments are logical and valid. Whereas they wouldn't have been happy unless the show was renamed The Dean Show and every single scene had Dean and explored Dean's feelings and everything hinged on Dean's every action.
Uh, yeah...anyway, my point is that you are nothing like that. :P
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