Rewatch S5: Dark Side of the Moon (5x16)

[hells_half_acre]

 Finally on the 5th disc! Woo!

Now, after the odd non-sequential Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid, we return to the story of Dean's complete loss of faith and hope in everything...

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[hells_half_acre]

I hadn't thought about it that way. I mean, I knew that Sam's storyline was about him trying desperately to gain control of his own life - and his own destiny...because everything (except Stanford) had always been decided for him. But I didn't think of it as a character flaw...I mean, I didn't think of Sam as victimizing himself. But yeah, it makes sense that it'd be a logical conclusion. And it makes sense for someone like that to not understand that they're actions have consequences, because they aren't used to being in control of their actions...does that make sense?

I'm trying to agree with you, anyway.

Poor Sam...I mean, he has every right to think of himself as a victim, because he basically IS...but that being said, victims don't get anywhere by thinking of themselves as a victim :P

Re Thanksgiving: Ok, yeah...I hadn't considered that American Thanksgiving is all about family. That would be a huge burn on Dean...that Sam chose to hang out with a strange family on a holiday where you are supposed to be thankful for the family you have. Ouch.

See, Cultural things like this sometimes don't even translate that well north of the border (where we even have a version of Thanksgiving ourselves!). I wonder how this played overseas?

hijacking this thread, hope you don't mind

[baruchan]

Speaking as a fan of SPN living in the Philippines, it was very jarring for me to have Sam choosing to spend Thanksgiving at another person's house instead of sticking with Dean. And I only just found out that Thanksgiving was for being thankful for family!

Here, we usually invite our relatives to the 3rd or 4th degree (e.g., cousin of a cousin, cousin of a cousin of an aunt-by-marriage, uncle of a cousin-by-marriage, etc.) on major (and not-so-major) holidays, so the thought of spending "family time" with strangers seems weird for me.

Re: hijacking this thread, hope you don't mind

[hells_half_acre]

Good to know! Yeah, here is where I guess my culture is showing - personally, I wasn't raised to be that family-oriented.

I WAS raised, however, to be considerate of other people...so, for instance, I wouldn't spend "family time" at a strangers house if it meant my older brother was going to be sitting all alone on a holiday. That's not cool.