Self-Defense and Terrorism Aren't Equal

[hebrewhammer777]

I did a little ghost-writing recently and I figured I'd post it here

Comments

[babzen]

That's pretty much how I see it (and I think most Americans). I read an article in the economist about why everyone else sees it different from the Americans and Israelis, but I still don't full comprehend it. I understand that Europeans in general don't think war will solve problems (because of their experiences), and that they think that preemptive strikes are even worse, but Israel is not being preemptive - it's reacting. Maybe they feel that because it's different people for each attack (even though it's not really), that each response from Israel is preemptive because a further attack is not a logical certainty (even though it's obvious). I understand that Cato thinks that Israel's strategy can't work, because with any innocents getting killed (or fake killed) it gives the enemy strength, but as you discussed above, that doesn't really make sense, because whenever the Jewish innocents die nobody seems to care, and the Arabs innocents are dying because the Arab terrorists are using them as shields, which should be obvious to

anti-Israel

[hebrewhammer777]

The other side doesn't need good arguments. There are a number of different anti-Israeli camps and most people who oppose Israel in their latest endeavor fall into one or more

cont.

[hebrewhammer777]

Of course, I forgot two obvious groups... the terrorists themselves and the Islamists who have been brainwashed since their childhood, often with cartoons.

[3rdrate]

A friend of mine who has moved to Iran and joined the Muslim religion wrote this in response to your article. She's from Austria and English is her second language, so excuse the bad grammar

[3rdrate]

if someone would coem

she's deluded beyond belief

[hebrewhammer777]

As for her first argument in this section... she gets the hypothetical all wrong. I would respond, but I'd simply be repeating myself. As to her question as to whether her reasoning is logical -- it's logical (I think... I'm not sure I understood her argument), but it's answering a question that's completely unrelated to the situation at hand as it neglects that Hezbollah struck first and that Hezbollah uses human shields and that Hezbollah intentionally targets civilians, which renders her entire hypothetical useless.

by the way why is it hard to distinguish
between civilians and military ?ecaus non of teh hezbollah
pple were militants in teh first place, there exists
nothing like an islamic militant. because islam itself
conveys the meaning of peace. its like saying peaceful
militants...I should just stop right here... she's obviously deluded beyond belief. First, the answer to her question is that Hezbollah hides among the civilians. But more importantly, because she *thinks* that Islam conveys peace, all those thousands of

Re: she's deluded beyond belief

[3rdrate]

Hey, not to worry, I'm on your side on all this. It's just that I don't have the information to back up my opinion, which is why I posted it for your reply. im not a nutcase, seriously!
nick