We have all sinned and fall short of the glory of God

Aug 18, 2005 18:57

today in psychology Mr. Hallett was talking about how when babies are born..they live on a 25 hour day instead of a 24 hour day...so thats why they always wake up in the middle of the night..they have to adapt to 24 hours...and he was saying how alot of ppl wanted to know if other genes get passed down from generation to generation then how come ( Read more... )

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pink_flipflops_ August 18 2005, 19:03:18 UTC
katie psychology is looking at it from a nonreligious point of view because if they were to start talking about sin you know that all anyone would do is start bitching about how its bringing religion into study. im not trying to be mean but just because you think that being gay is a sin doesnt mean that everyone has to think the same way, and i know you're not trying to make everyone think that, but bringing religion into this is totally innappropriate.
but thats just my opinion

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kendall_marie17 August 18 2005, 19:57:22 UTC
i agree.
psych has nothing to do with religion. its a class on a scientific study, not a theology class.

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bethouxmyvision August 19 2005, 16:59:29 UTC
Why is it that it's ok for you to be offended by Katie's religion, but it's not ok for her to be offended by evolution?

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kendall_marie17 August 19 2005, 17:04:10 UTC
im not offended by katies religion first of all, seeing as i went to women of faith with her..i would not have gone had her religion been something i was offended by. But had you been in the car with us that weekend on our ride up there, my religion was questioned very much...not in an attacking way, just in a way to learn. and that was simply all i was doing...actually answering questions that to be honest with you, back then i did not have the understanding that i do now to give complete answers.
I as well hate evolution, but its part of psycology...i did not say she cannot be offended by it, i am...i was simply saying there not saying it in a way to offend you in class...its in a way to show different beliefs and way the human brain is working.

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nikk_it August 21 2005, 13:25:40 UTC
Kendall,
don't be too quick to judge...just because someone claims Christianity does not mean they havn't looked into both sides of these debates. Judging things by God's Word doesn't neccesarily equal a closed mind.

And if you believe other things in the Bible, then realize you can't pick and choose what you want out of God's Word. Take it in totality.

If you want refferences on homo-sexuality, then I can get them to you.

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kendall_marie17 August 21 2005, 13:35:15 UTC
im not claiming that anyone hasnt looked at both sides of this so calm yourself! Kaite had actually ASKED me questions concerning these issues at women of faith, this was in no way directed to you. wait...who are you? yeah exactly. i dont know you...k thanks =)

im not picking and choosing! im saying that homosexual ACTS are wrong, yet BEING homonsexual is not because it is something out of your control. im saying judging IS wrong in its entirity therefore saying a gay person is a sinner is JUDGING unless you've sat down and asked that person if they have gay sex.

i dont need references, i know them myself thank you. and maybe next time read all the comments before you jump on me for something you dont even know where im coming from. this is from a conversation from a WHILE back, it didnt start here, so you dont know the half. k thanks.

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head_overheels_ August 21 2005, 17:24:57 UTC
woah hah...ok well first off..Nikki wasnt trying to be mean she was just inputting how she felt..and trying to help is all...and also i still have to say that being gay is your fault...you cant be born with it..unless you mean born with sin which led them to being gay..but either way they are still at fault..and besides i seriously doubt anyone who is gay isnt gonna act on it...having thoughts about the same sex is just as bad as acting upon those thoughts..i understand where ur coming from kendall..you read all these scientifical reports on genes and such..but do you really know that its true..wheres the proof? i mean can u truly trust an imperfect man who you dont even know...wouldnt you rather trust God's word which is holy and just..All i know is if Gods word says it i believe it..you cant just pick and chose what you want like Nikki said..

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how am i picking and choosing?! hahaha kendall_marie17 August 21 2005, 19:36:50 UTC
First off with my beliefs (which is what this all boils down to, everyones own individual beliefs and interpretations of the Bible...which is why we have the many religions we do) everyone is born with sin, hetero or homosexual; you are born with Original Sin.
Second off, how is AT ALL having a thought as bad as the action? hah are you to tell me, that having a thought of having sex, or a dream of having sex is as bad as actually having sex? in health class in what...8th grade they explained that in puberty boys have dreams about that all the time, (i think everyone remembers that day of there health class lol) but are you then telling me that because of that dream or thought they have now committed a sin just as bad as going out and actually having sex? lets think about that, come on ( ... )

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nikk_it August 21 2005, 18:36:48 UTC
Whoa there. I'm not freakin out? Her journal is open to comments, and your commenting right out on a public thing. It's KT's journal, and I know Katie.

What shows proof it's out of their control? What evidence? Someone claiming to always have been gay?- how is that reliable?

Christians are NOT called to ignore sin, but rather to deal with it on biblical grounds. I'm not 'jumping' on you at all. There's no reason to be so abrupt with me.

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kendall_marie17 August 21 2005, 19:26:50 UTC
First off I'm not being abrupt...you do not know me, so here again you are judging hah this is simply me, and its not in an abrupt manner. Thats the funny thing about internet, it can be interpreted in so many ways...obviously you've misinterpreted it. =)

Second off did I ever tell you not to comment on Katies journal? Or question you knowing Katie? I was well aware when commenting and still am that it is a 'public thing' but...thanks for the reminder..?

Do you have anyone gay in your family? Have you ever watched someone who is a homosexual adult or even teen grow up? Im begining to doubt it. The evidence would be the fact that they've found people who are homosexual to be missing a chromosome. Kind of like X & Y versus X & X chromosomes (the difference between being male and female), or like having 2 X's and a Y chromosome (Turners Syndrome) Im not going off someones word, Im going off the study of test after test. And Im not picking and choosing what to follow of Gods word, I follow it all to the best of my ability, humans are ( ... )

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nikk_it August 22 2005, 14:55:27 UTC
If you don't think your coming across rude at all, then I guess we're split on that matter too. But okay, sorry to stress you so much. End.

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vert9 August 18 2005, 20:27:14 UTC
It doesn't matter whether you or Katie or me or anyone think it's a sin or not, God said it and He gets to decide.

And Christianity has everything to do with psychology, because it has everything to do with everything.

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head_overheels_ August 19 2005, 06:05:02 UTC
i wasnt necessarily bringing religion into it
I would call it Truth
and i agree alot of ppl would complain if we brought religion in it
but there are also going to be ppl to complain about evolution or theories
the only reason religion isnt taught in schools today is becuz it 'offends ppl'...well talking about things like this and evolution, offends me..so i see no wrong in procclaiming what i believe..
Not everyone is going to agree with every lil thing
besides this is my livejournal..i'm not in psych right now..these are my words and what i believe...lol but i also understand where you are coming from..most ppl would agree with you

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head_overheels_ August 19 2005, 06:06:48 UTC
and yes like danny said...in the end..it doens matter what we see..becuz God is the one who decides not us..

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