Hey silverducks! Here's the Hunger Games post I was talking about setting up-I'll put up the Doctor Who post tomorrow after the fiftieth
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Re: EverlarkhawthornhedgeNovember 25 2013, 01:53:44 UTC
Lol, I think that this stuff is coming off as nitpicky as all heck, but like my other comment, I think that I am partially using the movie as a springboard just for trying to clarify my general thoughts on stuff!
I think that I am a little hung up on how *cold* Katniss is to Peeta when he comes in the morning after Gale's whipping to relieve her and allow her to rest. In the movie, to me at least, she barely gives him a second glance and, given that she *does* know how he feels about her, is completely insensitive to how this affects him. Which, to me, is COMPLETELY at odds with book!Katniss, who concerns herself a lot with trying to avoid hurting people's feelings. And, man, how I would have loved if they could have included something that would have accomplished the same thing as Katniss' phone call to Peeta to check that he was able to arrive home safely. That's one of my favorite scenes because it shows that Katniss absolutely does concern herself with Peeta and his safety even before the Quell.
And I think that the reason I am a bit hung up about the fact that there is very little Everlark in D12 is because I think that it is important to show that Katniss and Peeta can get along well together under "normal" circumstances, which is why I was disappointed that there wasn't the plant book or the equivalent. Even though they have gone (and will go) through terrible ordeals together, they ALSO can achieve a certain normalcy and comfort together. For the same reason, I wish that they had included the CF roof scene on the day before the interviews-just them being friends and caring for each other. The inclusion of the pearl bit was welcome in that regard-it was just a spontaneous moment of sweetness between the two.
But, YES, the inclusion of Finnick's expression after he revives Peeta and Snow's granddaughter were absolutely perfect to signal a shift in Katniss's feelings.
Yes, I think that the line delivery of the "i need you" was a bit weak, but I am starting to think that that is an ongoing weakness of how they're choosing to portray movie Katniss. Katniss is, I think, a fairly passionate person who works hard to control the outward expression of her feelings, but sometimes they seep through. And one of those is the beach scene: nevermind that this is a pg13 movie, just have her *voice* express how strongly she feels about Peeta. But there are other instances where, I think that they pull punches in showing how Katniss feels, not just with Peeta but also, to a certain extent, with her sister. It's slightly off topic for this thread, but I also think that her relationship with Prim continues to be underdeveloped in the movies. I hope that they address that in MJ1.
And, ugh, that goodbye scene. I still can't properly articulate how much it pains me....
Re: EverlarksilverducksDecember 1 2013, 19:11:07 UTC
Yes, I do agree that at times Katniss came across as too cold. As you say, she does try and hide what she feels, but all too often they come through anyway - which is why other people tend to be able to read her so well!
And YES! D12 Everlark was basically non existent! As you say, we needed to see them being friends, showing their relationship progress and that it isn't all just the danger/adrenaline/drama of the Games where they feel something. I think they could have easily squeezed in some more scenes with them, just to show the progression from the VT to the QQ. In the film there's this big gap, but in the book there isn't! I know they had a lot to cram in, but considering what happens in MJ, I think we needed a few more D12 Everlark moments.
And I was disappointed we didn't get the rooftop scene - though apparently it might be an extra in the DVDs. It's such a beautiful scene where Katniss and Peeta both just let themselves be together and be vulnerable and happy - away from the cameras!
Still, I do think the director is an Everlark shipper (he said somewhere that the rooftop scenes was one of his favourites and he was sorry they couldn't fit it in.), so I'm hopeful MJ will be done right in respect to Everlark.
But everything is so awful between them in MJ, it would have been nice to have a few more happy scenes, like in the book, in the CF film.
I think that I am a little hung up on how *cold* Katniss is to Peeta when he comes in the morning after Gale's whipping to relieve her and allow her to rest. In the movie, to me at least, she barely gives him a second glance and, given that she *does* know how he feels about her, is completely insensitive to how this affects him. Which, to me, is COMPLETELY at odds with book!Katniss, who concerns herself a lot with trying to avoid hurting people's feelings. And, man, how I would have loved if they could have included something that would have accomplished the same thing as Katniss' phone call to Peeta to check that he was able to arrive home safely. That's one of my favorite scenes because it shows that Katniss absolutely does concern herself with Peeta and his safety even before the Quell.
And I think that the reason I am a bit hung up about the fact that there is very little Everlark in D12 is because I think that it is important to show that Katniss and Peeta can get along well together under "normal" circumstances, which is why I was disappointed that there wasn't the plant book or the equivalent. Even though they have gone (and will go) through terrible ordeals together, they ALSO can achieve a certain normalcy and comfort together. For the same reason, I wish that they had included the CF roof scene on the day before the interviews-just them being friends and caring for each other. The inclusion of the pearl bit was welcome in that regard-it was just a spontaneous moment of sweetness between the two.
But, YES, the inclusion of Finnick's expression after he revives Peeta and Snow's granddaughter were absolutely perfect to signal a shift in Katniss's feelings.
Yes, I think that the line delivery of the "i need you" was a bit weak, but I am starting to think that that is an ongoing weakness of how they're choosing to portray movie Katniss. Katniss is, I think, a fairly passionate person who works hard to control the outward expression of her feelings, but sometimes they seep through. And one of those is the beach scene: nevermind that this is a pg13 movie, just have her *voice* express how strongly she feels about Peeta. But there are other instances where, I think that they pull punches in showing how Katniss feels, not just with Peeta but also, to a certain extent, with her sister. It's slightly off topic for this thread, but I also think that her relationship with Prim continues to be underdeveloped in the movies. I hope that they address that in MJ1.
And, ugh, that goodbye scene. I still can't properly articulate how much it pains me....
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And YES! D12 Everlark was basically non existent! As you say, we needed to see them being friends, showing their relationship progress and that it isn't all just the danger/adrenaline/drama of the Games where they feel something. I think they could have easily squeezed in some more scenes with them, just to show the progression from the VT to the QQ. In the film there's this big gap, but in the book there isn't! I know they had a lot to cram in, but considering what happens in MJ, I think we needed a few more D12 Everlark moments.
And I was disappointed we didn't get the rooftop scene - though apparently it might be an extra in the DVDs. It's such a beautiful scene where Katniss and Peeta both just let themselves be together and be vulnerable and happy - away from the cameras!
Still, I do think the director is an Everlark shipper (he said somewhere that the rooftop scenes was one of his favourites and he was sorry they couldn't fit it in.), so I'm hopeful MJ will be done right in respect to Everlark.
But everything is so awful between them in MJ, it would have been nice to have a few more happy scenes, like in the book, in the CF film.
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