Re: Amy and Rory Pond - and the epic Pond FamilyhawthornhedgeMay 20 2013, 22:31:15 UTC
This is kind of a test comment, but I completely agree about the Ponds really beyond responsible for taking my Doctor Who fandom to the next (and completely bonkers) level. I mean, I even started to read the tie-in novels to get more Amy and Rory!
I also was fond of Rory right from his first appearance, and I was so, so happy once he came back in Vampires of Venice, even if I wish that it had been under happier circumstances! And that was such a great episode for him in terms of continuing to establish his character from TEH: obviously he loved Amy, but he wasn't going to proceed with the marriage if he didn't want to, he had a remarkable ability to roll with the punches, he was clever and understood why the TARDIS was bigger on the inside, AND he was willing to call the Doctor out if needed.
I also liked Amy pretty much from the start, but my fondness for her really bloomed once Rory came back because those first interactions really highlighted how much she had lost and how much she struggled with actually admitting how much she loved Rory because she was afraid (because, as it turns out, she lost everyone whom she had loved). I mean, the amount of feels that I had during Amy's Choice and then Cold Blood was just epic. And I can't even begin to explain how incoherent I was at the end of The Pandorica Opens-freaking Moffat!
And, oh, Asylum of the Daleks: it was so, so heartbreaking how they were at the brink of divorce. Moffat really put them through the wringer, and as devastating as The Angels Take Manhattan was, like you, I was just so, so relieved that they were together. Doctor Who Magazine had a really cute comics montage of them in the Christmastime issue that was just SO adorable and that I've adopted as a headcanon.
Ahhh...I probably need another comment to explain the feels that I have about the Ponds and Melody/River! I mean, The Impossible Astronaut/Day of the Moon become SO much more heartbreaking in retrospect. And I just sob at the fact that Rory never actually met the "real" Melody.
Re: Amy and Rory Pond - and the epic Pond FamilysilverducksMay 21 2013, 20:24:38 UTC
There's tie in novels... And Christmas comics? WOW! Very cool!
And yes! I was SO SO glad when Rory came back. In fact, I think I took longer to warm to Amy because of Rory. At first, I thought she just didn't really care and whilst I never disliked her, it took me longer to really love her.
But then, after only a few episodes, it becomes much more obvious why she did run off with the Doctor just before her wedding, and why she did kinda fancy the Doctor for a little while.
But like you, I really started to love her when Rory came back and we started to see how much she did really care about Rory. And after Amy's choice that was it. Her choice was ALWAYS Rory! And yeah, then the ship just grew more and more epic and amazing and wonderful and... Yeah, I think you get the idea! ;-)
And yeah, I loved how they developed Rory's character. He was always very cool, but they brought so much quiet strength to his character. And yep, he loved Amy, but he wasn't a doormat - he did stand up for himself. In fact, I just adore how he was allowed to be badass, and clever, and a bit geeky, and kind, and comforting and did I mention a total badass? Who takes none of the Doctor's nonsense. He is just such an awesome character. And ok, I do love him a bit more than Amy, but she is very cool too and I adore her character journey - and obviously they're journey together.
Hmmm, I'm finding it hard to properly discuss Amy and Rory without just reverting to adjectives on how wonderful I find them. Sorry!
Re: Amy and Rory Pond - and the epic Pond FamilyhawthornhedgeMay 21 2013, 21:02:19 UTC
Oh my goodness, YES there are tie-in novels. I am not sure whether Doctor Who Magazine is still featuring Amy and Rory in their comics, but in the US there is a standalone Doctor Who comic that has been using Amy and Rory as Eleven's companions. I'm woefully behind on the third series of the latter, but the first two had great characterization. I mean, the tie-in novels are basically glorified fanfiction, but some can be really good. My favorite is "The Glamour Chase," which gives some really good backstory to Rory. There are a few others which are good, but probably the most heartbreaking in retrospect is "Touched by an Angel," which, as you might guess, features the Weeping Angels.
Heh. Rory is DEFINITELY my favorite companion, but Amy is a pretty close second. And, to be honest, given how devoted Rory is to Amy, I probably couldn't love him as much as I do if I didn't think that he had chosen a worthy target for his affections. And by that, I mean that Amy was clearly SO devoted to him once she stopped trying to deny her feelings and doing stupid things (like kissing the Doctor). When people really hold a grudge about Amy kissing the Doctor, I do like to point out that after Rory died in CB, she never even considered the Doctor romantically. That kiss, while foolish and hurtful to Rory, was SUCH an aberration, and pretty much EVERYTHING that happens afterwards goes to show how in love Amy is with Rory.
At the same time, I also liked how their relationship, while really strong, wasn't perfect. As devastating as AOTD was, I thought that the hurt that Amy and Rory felt was absolutely believable. ESPECIALLY because each thought that they were doing what was going to be the best for the other. I still get emotional just thinking about when Rory says that he's always known that he loved her more and then Amy tells him that she was giving him up because SHE loved HIM. Urgh-stupid kids!
I also was fond of Rory right from his first appearance, and I was so, so happy once he came back in Vampires of Venice, even if I wish that it had been under happier circumstances! And that was such a great episode for him in terms of continuing to establish his character from TEH: obviously he loved Amy, but he wasn't going to proceed with the marriage if he didn't want to, he had a remarkable ability to roll with the punches, he was clever and understood why the TARDIS was bigger on the inside, AND he was willing to call the Doctor out if needed.
I also liked Amy pretty much from the start, but my fondness for her really bloomed once Rory came back because those first interactions really highlighted how much she had lost and how much she struggled with actually admitting how much she loved Rory because she was afraid (because, as it turns out, she lost everyone whom she had loved). I mean, the amount of feels that I had during Amy's Choice and then Cold Blood was just epic. And I can't even begin to explain how incoherent I was at the end of The Pandorica Opens-freaking Moffat!
And, oh, Asylum of the Daleks: it was so, so heartbreaking how they were at the brink of divorce. Moffat really put them through the wringer, and as devastating as The Angels Take Manhattan was, like you, I was just so, so relieved that they were together. Doctor Who Magazine had a really cute comics montage of them in the Christmastime issue that was just SO adorable and that I've adopted as a headcanon.
Ahhh...I probably need another comment to explain the feels that I have about the Ponds and Melody/River! I mean, The Impossible Astronaut/Day of the Moon become SO much more heartbreaking in retrospect. And I just sob at the fact that Rory never actually met the "real" Melody.
Seriously, I just have nonstop Ponds feels!
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And yes! I was SO SO glad when Rory came back. In fact, I think I took longer to warm to Amy because of Rory. At first, I thought she just didn't really care and whilst I never disliked her, it took me longer to really love her.
But then, after only a few episodes, it becomes much more obvious why she did run off with the Doctor just before her wedding, and why she did kinda fancy the Doctor for a little while.
But like you, I really started to love her when Rory came back and we started to see how much she did really care about Rory. And after Amy's choice that was it. Her choice was ALWAYS Rory! And yeah, then the ship just grew more and more epic and amazing and wonderful and... Yeah, I think you get the idea! ;-)
And yeah, I loved how they developed Rory's character. He was always very cool, but they brought so much quiet strength to his character. And yep, he loved Amy, but he wasn't a doormat - he did stand up for himself. In fact, I just adore how he was allowed to be badass, and clever, and a bit geeky, and kind, and comforting and did I mention a total badass? Who takes none of the Doctor's nonsense. He is just such an awesome character. And ok, I do love him a bit more than Amy, but she is very cool too and I adore her character journey - and obviously they're journey together.
Hmmm, I'm finding it hard to properly discuss Amy and Rory without just reverting to adjectives on how wonderful I find them. Sorry!
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Heh. Rory is DEFINITELY my favorite companion, but Amy is a pretty close second. And, to be honest, given how devoted Rory is to Amy, I probably couldn't love him as much as I do if I didn't think that he had chosen a worthy target for his affections. And by that, I mean that Amy was clearly SO devoted to him once she stopped trying to deny her feelings and doing stupid things (like kissing the Doctor). When people really hold a grudge about Amy kissing the Doctor, I do like to point out that after Rory died in CB, she never even considered the Doctor romantically. That kiss, while foolish and hurtful to Rory, was SUCH an aberration, and pretty much EVERYTHING that happens afterwards goes to show how in love Amy is with Rory.
At the same time, I also liked how their relationship, while really strong, wasn't perfect. As devastating as AOTD was, I thought that the hurt that Amy and Rory felt was absolutely believable. ESPECIALLY because each thought that they were doing what was going to be the best for the other. I still get emotional just thinking about when Rory says that he's always known that he loved her more and then Amy tells him that she was giving him up because SHE loved HIM. Urgh-stupid kids!
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