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marlowe1 in hated_character

And oddity in hating characters

Sep 06, 2012 23:32

I find it fascinating that people hate characters for what they do as if they are real people. I was thinking specifically of Gwen from Torchwood. I mentioned that I hated her as a character because she was written one way (cop) and she was written as a Mary Sue who can't seem to stop remorseless killers from running on her knife or press the ( Read more... )

banhammer, degenerated to wank, torchwood, female= mary sue, gwen cooper, there is no plot only characters, *fishslapped*

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haro September 7 2012, 04:17:33 UTC

Wow, so much typical character hate in this post.

Calling a lead female a Mary-Sue (a catch-all term used to justify lady hate, generally) because everyone falls in love with her (even though Rhys and debatably Jack are the only ones that do)? Check.
'Bland Asian' (how nice to identify a character by just their race)? Check

(Also Gwen and Tosh are awesome.)

dropsofgleam September 7 2012, 11:34:03 UTC

This. it's hilarious in a trainwrecky way, considering how it's written as a textbook example of what should NOT go here. Bashing, double standards, immature "reasoning" that sound like childish fits ("ALL THE DUDES FALL FOR HER EVEN IF IT'S JUST TWO AS MUCH, I F*CKING HATE HER!!!111"), etc.

marlowe1 September 7 2012, 14:27:17 UTC

Also the walk-on characters.

But the main point is that hating a character for her actions is stupid (invoking Livia and Janice Soprano for that) but hating her because the writers never seem to know what to do with her except have her cry and get called the most beautiful woman in the world points to a sad misogyny within the show itself.

akai_senshi September 8 2012, 01:24:30 UTC

Sorry, both are invalid.

Nice try, though, I'm one of the mods, you've been banned.

marlowe1 September 7 2012, 14:13:32 UTC

I'm talking about the ways that these characters were written. Even when the series goes inside Tosh's head, there's still nothing there except that she wants to be LOVED. And Mary Sue is NOT a catch-all term to justify lady hate. I also use it in regards to the male protagonist from The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo. In both cases, I'm hating on the writers for not being able to deal with Asian characters or main female characters with anything but the most superficial level.

Same way with Sherlock's second episode giving us the Magical Asian which is a subset of the Magical Negro (and why I'm looking forward to Elementary having Lucy Liu playing Watson)

beccadg September 8 2012, 05:36:36 UTC

...even though Rhys and debatably Jack are the only ones that do...

Funny, how conveniently you ignore how Owen slept with Gwen or Andy's admitted crush on Gwen. It isn't simply Rhys and "debatably" Jack that have some form of attraction to Gwen.

Also Gwen and Tosh are awesome.

I'll certainly agree that Tosh is awesome.

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