Why I Love HBP Snape (and Salman Rushdie Does too!)

Mar 21, 2007 12:08

I was just discussing with gioiamia, who like me recs on KIA, why I love Snape. She's involved with a LJ Community that speculates about Book 7, called hpbook7thoughts. That group isn't particularly SS/HG oriented, and Gioia actually considers Harry/Ginny her OTP. She says that everyone she knows in her corner of the fandom, Snape fan or not, believes Snape is still one ( Read more... )

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wade_scott March 21 2007, 21:25:48 UTC
Well, you know my position on Snape. HBP was my deal-breaker, too. Before I was ambivalent at best, but now I'm firmly trenched on the White Hat side of the line. I think I was convinced by Spinner's End.

Does that mean I like the man? Hell, no. He's bitter, he's a bully to the kids (exhibiting the same behaviors he so vocally hates James for), and he's incredibly low-class (spitting on the Quidditch pitch and freaking out on Fudge). Personally, I think he needs a long vacation after the war, to get his head out of his ass and find himself a new life. His current one is too damaged.

So if I dislike Snape so much, why do I ship SS/HG? Because I like to see how writers bridge the gap between the two people. Especially post-HBP.

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harmony_bites March 21 2007, 21:42:13 UTC
I do like Snape, if by like you mean sympathy. Yes, he's flawed. Much of the "bullying" behavior I can see being explained. I once read this really fascinating article for instance dealing with Snape as a teacher, Good Snape is Not a Square Circle. I think both Duj in "Everything I've Ever Done" and Caeria in "Pet Project" do beautifully by that ( ... )

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wade_scott March 21 2007, 21:55:20 UTC
Oh, yes, I definitely give him the sympathy factor. I probably like him like Dumbledore does. I'm very sure Dumbles does not like everything Snape does. However, Dumbles sees beyond that and values Snape on Snape's terms.

Then again, isn't that how every relationship in life goes? I may not agree with everything my friends do, but I love them despite their flaws. Family members aren't perfect, but we love them anyway.

It's like Lupin (?) said: The world isn't devided between the good and the Death Eaters. It's hard to believe that someone can still be "good" even if they do something "bad" like killing. Perhaps that's why they plug their ears and close their eyes and pretend that HBP doesn't exist. Because it's easier than trying to reconcile the fact that good doesn't always equal innocent.

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wade_scott March 21 2007, 21:55:56 UTC
PS: Good to see you back. ::Sends lots of crunchy carrots to the stumped plot bunny::

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harmony_bites March 21 2007, 22:03:25 UTC
Snape also has his good qualities. Just about every one the Founders valued. Learning? Intelligence? The man rewrote his text as a teen and they still haven't caught up. Even Umbridge had to admit his students were advanced for thier level and Snape seemed to take for granted most of his students would get a "high pass" on their OWLs and he could fill a class with only "Outstandings"

IOW, he is an effective teacher and a good scholar. Ravenclaw would be proud.

He's brave. Even though he was once almost killed by a werewolf in the exact same place didn't mean he didn't rush to save Harry et al. And despite his hatred of Sirius, he took him and the others back to Hogwarts, not to waiting Dementors. Plus just the courage to keep going to Voldie, especially if his loyalities lied with AD knowing how Voldie punishes those he's less than pleased with.

Godric should be proud to have him as one of his own.

Brave, loyal, intelligent, cunning, witty--with the touch of poetry you could find in that opening speech of Snape's.

Yeah, I like

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