IY drabble set: I Won't Respect You in the Morning

[hardlyfatal]

So, I got inspired to write this as a reaction to all the schmoopified versions of Jakotsu/Bankotsu fics. Canon suggests that any sex between them would go rather like this, than anything else (IMO).

Rating: R
Length: each drabble is 200 words exactly
A/N to schmoopy J/B shippers: Eat it.

Comments

[tareacel]

Uggggggggggh.

There is a specific writer...I'm pretty sure you know who I'm talking about...who infected half the fandom with her "blushing Bankotsu" stereotype. And is regarded as the premiere Shichinintai author in the fandom. .....Gah.

My most horrid secret is that I started out almost as bad. BUT. I got better. Bwahahaha. It helped when my muses finally crystallized in my mind, in regard to backgrounds. But still, I don't claim to be the best out there. There's a girl on ff.net who's doing what I want to do (aka, writing an entire arc of stories dealing with the formation of the Shichinintai and their lives before they got the axe the first time) who deserves that honor. And she's not even writing it yaoi. That's part of the reason it's so good. She's got the brothers/close friends relationship between Ban and Ja down pat. It almost makes me want to write mine non-yaoi. Almost.

I like your story. **nod** I really do. It's almost cleansing to get a story without all the emotional weight (whether it be the weight mine carry or the sheer weight of fluff and sludge inherent in other people's). **grin** I hope you won't think bad of me as a fellow Shichinintai writer for choosing to have them mean a bit more to each other than yours do.

Oh! Something else about these authors you gotta love is the desperate attempts to fit the poor boys into seme/uke molds.

...Face it. They switch. **grin**

~Tareacel

[hardlyfatal]

I don't think badly of anyone for what they want to write or read :)

I *hate* uke/seme stereotypes. HATE.

[tareacel]

AMEN. HATE. In any fandom. NOBODY is ever so clear cut as they seem...unless they're written into a yaoi that way. Like Gravitation. **sigh** I'm sorry to say it but I don't think that Shuichi could ever be seme.

...Bankotsu might be younger and shorter, but he's also..Bankotsu. o.0 So...no. Jakotsu may be more femme and stuff...but...he's also Jakotsu. So. No. **grin** At least not all the time anyway. Hence: Switch. I doubt it bothers them overly so to do it.

Is that the only Shichinintai story you've written? I'd love to read more of them from you. **sheepish** I read through your Furuba story today..the long one. And I gotta say...impressed. I'm not a rabid fanbitch by any stretch...but it's hard to keep my attention when Yuki's with anyone but Haru. **shrug** Guess that's what comes with watching the anime, and then getting disenchanted with the manga. But whoa...Uo with Yuki was something I'd never...and then it works so WELL! And I was hooked and read it all in one evening. **Sheepish** That...and Ouran stuffs. And Oh <3 again. You're really good! :)

[hardlyfatal]

Thanks so much! You're very kind :)

I hardly ever write slash, actually-- this and a bisexual threesome for Samurai Champloo is pretty much all I've ever done for putting the lads together. M/M romance and/or sex doesn't interest me all that much.

I *adore* Yuki, with the white-hot passion of a thousand suns. And I love Haru, too, but with Rin-- their relationship is just so beautiful to me. I adore the contrast between his calmness and her passion. There's something about his matter-of-fact love for her, and how much she needs him, that just melts me.

Though his childhood crush on Yuki is so cute :) Tiny!baby!Haru is fucking ADORABLE.

[tareacel]

Oh, he is. **grin**

I'm glad to find another Yuki lover!! There's way too many people that decide to automatically hate him...with the white hot passion of a thousand suns....simply because he *can* be really mean to Kyo. Even I have to admit...it was really hard for me to get through the first few episodes of the anime. But then everything smoothed out and mellowed out (as much as Furuba ever does...) and I discovered a love for Yuki.

Dunno if it's simply because I'm a Rat as well, although that could be part of it. **Grin** But he's my favorite. I adore him as well. Gotta admit, it's close between he, Haru, and Kyo, but he's definitely my favorite.

I did *try* to still read the manga once Rin's and Haru's relationship was introduced...I really did...but I dunno. It was like a fire went out. I *do* see where you're coming from. I do. I just don't like how she keeps flipping back and forth and hurting him. I know she does it for a reason, but I still don't like it. And, while I know now that you're not a yaoi fan..it's just...Yuki and Haru compliment each other as well. Haru's strength (due, in part, to Yuki) and Yuki's (relative) fragility...Yuki needs a caregiver. Someone like Tohru....or like Haru. **grin** I could go on, but I'll spare you, because I like you.

I dunno. I think it also bothered me that none of the main male characters in Furuba end up with a guy. Despite how many *could*. Like I said, I'm not a "OMGALLTHEBOYSGOTOGETHER!" person (for example... Tohru + Kyo = <3!! ) But Haru *did* love Yuki, Ayame easily could have fallen for a guy, and well...actually, I couldn't believe that Ritsu actually ended up with anyone, male or female. I wouldn't think...he'd be ready for a relationship.^.^;;;

I just think I would have liked to see a little bit more of an underlying theme of growing up and exploring sexuality a little, with Furuba. **shrug**

~Tareacel

[hardlyfatal]

I dunno, I think staying with a nurturing type like Tohru or Haru would have ended up emotionally crippling Yuki, making him dependant on their protection. There would have been no impetus for him to be strong, since they would have been strong for him.

I ended up liking Machi in the end because, damaged though both of them are, they inspire each other to be strong-- they'll grow together, rather than shield each other.

I could see Ritsu or Ayame hooking up with guys (or, hell, each other!) in the end. I didn't feel the need to have EVERYone hook up by the end, it was too pat and felt a bit unnatural. They could easily have left little subplots like Ayame/Mine and Ritsu/Mii out, and it wouldn't have hurt a thing. Leaving it open-ended would have at least been a nod to the shonen-ai fans out there, a free pass to infer what they wanted.

However, it's important to remember that is *is* shoujo, and so the main priority of the mangaka is going to be het romance. If anything else is added in the way of shonen-ai it's just a bonus.

Speaking of a bonus, have you ever read Shinshi Doumei Cross? It's shoujo, with the main relationship being het, but there's canon crossdressing, gay characters/relationships, and the heroine's best female friend is in love with her, so, canon lesbianism (if unrequited). I'm really enjoying it.

[tareacel]

First off, I adore your icon. Hiro!!!!! **grin**

Second of all, you raise a good point. **nod** It all depends on how it'd be written. Aaaand now I have to admit that I've been cowriting a story with another author. **Grin** And I guess..the way we saw it, is that Yuki's spent so long trying to hard to *be* strong (strong in the sense of "must appear normal, must not let anyone know anything's wrong, must hide everything, must be what everyone wants me to be, etc") that he's tired of it. Our Haru just kinda...offered him a chance to not have to keep up the pretenses anymore. Talked him out from behind some of the emotional walls he'd put up, and basically just gave him a chance to rest...and to heal. But Yuki's independent spirit didn't let him borrow Haru's strength for long. Actually, through no effort of our own, Yuki's grown up and become quite strong on his own. And so has Haru. It's actually become a healthier relationship than anything we ever managed to wrangle out of Furuba. NOW we're working on Kyo and Tohru. **Grin**

And Ritsu and Ayame would have been cute...except I still don't think Ritsu's ready for a relationship. Actually, to be quite honest, when I found out that Yuki ends the series in a serious relationship, I cried bullshit. Not that I don't wish the boy happiness...quite the opposite...but, guh, it just seems that he'd have quite a few issues of his own to work through before he could deal with those that come with a relationship!! I would have liked it if Ayame had been left single at the end. You're right, too, that everyone ending up with someone kinda...smacks of fantasy. Of falseness. But sadly, the manga-ka made it quite clear in numerous interviews that there would be no concessions made to her shounen-ai audience. .....I'm not gonna get into all that drama, let's just say that she lost a lot of readers over it, and I was glad I'd lost interest in it.

I think I might wanna pick that one up. O.O I was introduced to Ouran by a friend of mine when I got upset at Furuba, almost the same way. **grin** "OMG Tareacel, there's PURPOSEFUL shounen-ai implications!" and off I went, and I fell in love. **points to icon** I thought they were going to be my favorite characters, but actually, by the end of the anime, I was in LOVE with Tamaki. I'll admit to having my favorite yaoi pairings for Ouran, but Tamaki, for me, always ends up with Haruhi. <3 And then I read your snippet with Haruhi and Mori....and my heart skipped about three beats. Eheh.

I'm so sorry these always end up so LONG!! It's just nice having an intelligent author to talk to, you know?????

~Tareacel

[hardlyfatal]

Well, I have to sympathize with the FB mangaka-- it's her creation, her baby. If she doesn't want to make concessions for a part of the audience that she never intended to aim the plot toward (because I've always seen the "gay stuff" in FB as v. much tongue-in-cheek and joking, not at all serious) then she has that prerogative.

Wanting it to be otherwise is like complaining in a yaoi manga how any possible het relationships in it aren't being given more "screen time"-- any het "stuff" in yaoi is purely secondary and inconsequential, and unless the mangaka wants that to change, it's her call.

I LOVE Tamaki, he's just the sweetest thing, but Mori makes me ruin my knickers, if you know what I mean (and I think you do). I don't like the twins, so they don't do a thing for me, and shota doesn't get me off either so the Huni/Mori thing is just bleh. Tamaki I see as pretty much all-straight, and devoted to Haruhi.

But Kyouya... I ship him with Ranka. They have total chemistry. I should write a fic where their email exchange, at first about Haruhi, becomes adventurous and then raunchy... rawr. And I see Nekozawa as the fandom bicycle-- a bottomer bottom I never saw. Esp. after that ep with his sister and he's perched on hands and knees for a good 10 minutes. Got me to thinking, it did :)

I'm always so happy to have clever people to discuss fandom with :)

[tareacel]

I'm not at all saying that I don't understand that it's her creation...her characters....even as a fanwriter, I get pissed watching other fanauthors butcher characters that, because of the time and effort I put into *my* stories with them, almost seem like my own. **sigh** And after 10+ stories, and extensive research and agonization trying to fill in holes in background *and* canon for *certain* characters...nobody can tell me that at least MY versions aren't *mine*. **shakes head** Anyway, (sorry, I've been writing a really sad part of an arc today, and it's getting to me) I understand that she has all creative rights. ...But she could have handled it more...diplomatically. I mean, she threw everything back in the faces of the yaoi fans she backlashed against...said things that were easily construed as insulting...**sigh** It's not that she did it, it's *how* she did it. **shrug**

And oddly enough, I have made that complaint with some yaoi. I always loved Hiro in Gravi...much more than either Shuichi or Eiri. **shrug** But actually, my biggest problem with a lot of yaoi is the fact that a lot of the main characters tend to (no pun intended) suck. They are damaged, brittle things with too much angst and too little realism. And, a lot of the time, this is offset by having another pair...the "best friend of the main character" pair, who have no such problems! Who confess, get together, and take their relationship farther, all without problems. And yet, we are forced to watch more and more of the main pair...who at times make you wanna cringe. **Sigh** THIS is why I like the characters/series that HAVE no overt "romantic interests" or such...but you can tell they're in there. Case in point, Getbackers. **Grin** There's SO much possibility, yaoi AND het, in there..but the writer, for the most part, lets the audience put two and two together themselves, because we are (sometimes) smrt, and can connect the dots. I joke with my roomate that Ban and Ginji (the main characters if you don't know the series, best friends and both boys) are yaoi waiting to happen, and Kazuki and Juubei (there's that friend pair, also both boys, although with Kazuki it's impossible to tell until you hear his voice...boy's *gorgeous*) are yaoi that already happened offstage. **snicker** And there's a het pairing I <3 too.

And oddly enough, I started out with a strong dislike for Tamaki. He seemed so false to me, and arrogant, and a scene stealer who couldn't shut up. And then I actually learned about him. (I like to spoil things for myself, what can I say, and read some pretty in-depth character bios by mistake...oops.) And then I fell in love with him. Because he's the sweetest, most honest BOY that I may have ever seen in anime. Oooh, but you're right about Mori too. Every time he spoke (Aa.) I'd melt. But Haruhi, I definitely see with Tamaki. What can I say? I'm a sucker for the most romantic possibility, and Tama's obviously got it BAD. **snort** Funny story, actually. When I found out that some people ship Tamaki and Kyouya, I made a face. Oh sure....I saved some *good* art...but it's not my thing. They're *cute* the way they are, what with Mom and Dad and all...why ruin it with yaoi? The *Twins* however, I am more than willing to ruin. **snicker** Okay, so that's my dirty secret. **grin** I couldn't help it. The first time Hikaru tugged Kaoru close and you get that *beautiful* close-up of them...centimeters apart...I was *gone*. I *love* Mori's devotion to Huni, I do. And if Huni didn't look like Momiji...**sigh** It could be *so* sweet. But I'm *not* into shota...which while it *technically* isn't...it still looks like it. So no.

**GRIN** So Kyouya and Ranka??? Never thought about it before...but you're RIGHT. OMG. And goodness knows that Ranka needs someone. I really don't think Kyouya would mind being with an older man...especially one who's still *hot*! Oh my geez...when Ranka's not dressed as..well..Ranka.

If you write that fic, I will SO read!!! Oh my gosh, PLEASE.

~Tareacel

[hardlyfatal]

I don't know if I'd ever write it, the past year has supposedly been for me writing original work I can get published but... feh. It's not going all that well. But I don't allow myself to write much fanfic because I'll get busy with than and neglect the original stuff. I know how I get :)

[tareacel]

I wish I could write original stuff. >.>

I dunno. I can spawn plots for other people's characters easier than anything...but I can NOT come up with my own characters from scratch. **shrug** I've tried, it just doesn't happen.

It *so* wouldn't take you long to write that story, though....**Grin**

**tempts**

~Tareacel

[hardlyfatal]

I wish I could write original stuff, too... it's just not working for me. Dammit. I suck.

[tareacel]

**HUG!***

Nonononono!!! You don't suck!!! You're really, really good!!!

Maybe the original stuff just isn't coming right now! Hell, I have times when my arc stuff won't come, and I have to write RP fluff. (roleplay, not real-person. >.<)

There are people that write worse original than you do fanfiction, and in the end, I think, it's better to write good ANYTHING than bad anything. I'm coming to love being a "good" fanfic writer. I mean, my stuff doesn't make me nauseous anymore. **grin** There are still other people's things I read, that I go "Whoa...I suck." I think everyone *always* does that. Because, until you get to a certain point, there's always gonna be *someone* who's better, at either fanfic or original. **HUG** But I think you're very good. **Grin** Like I told you originally, it takes a lot to get me to read het Furuba! Someone who "sucks" wouldn't have been able to pull it off. **Shakes head**

So no sucking! Just unblock yourself. Write Ouran. **GRIN**

<.< ...And let me read it. Cause after what I just wrote, good gods I need something to cheer me up.

~Tareacel