Hitler

Oct 04, 2016 16:59

“The fellow is a catastrophe, but that’s no reason not to find him interesting as a personality and destiny.”

-- Thomas Mann

“There’s never been so much Hitler.”-- Norbert Frei (2005 ( Read more... )

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maadmike October 5 2016, 06:34:05 UTC
Yeah, I think that Hitler had got the best vacant place in hell if it exists, but I am certain that our leader of those times is no more respectful for the thousands of our own people had got to prisons to find only death and what do you think about your authorities had been nuking two Japanese cities, was there any real necessity? If your president just for a matter of making Stalin to fear, had gave an order to kill in flames thousands of innocent civilians and made others to suffer for all their miserable life after for what reasons, for what wrongdoings, that they were born there? Where this man had gone after his death, to the paradise for presidents...? ;)

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hardblue October 5 2016, 14:29:06 UTC
Yeah, the world is a nasty place, but Hitler really did distinguish himself.

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maadmike October 6 2016, 01:27:55 UTC
Don't you think it is strange that people demonize Hitler so much. It is like Hitler had killed all those people and not common Germans did it which were Christians and attended the Church. And after their defeat they were like - "Oh, that cursed Hitler, he is Demon, he is Satana!" But, I don't think that one man no matter how talented or wise or mean he could be, could be such an asshole. No, all the common Germans were very very bad to let it, do it to make this hell comes true. What is interesting is that two "Great" nations, Japan and Germany, the most industrious, successful, educated and progressive had mired themselves in the Nazism and mass murder of billions of innocent people. They were like, "Oh, there is a work to do? Oh, I again should burn Jews (or Chinese), my neighbours... - Let's go! Work is work..."

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hardblue October 6 2016, 02:18:03 UTC
Just because a people are not innocent, it does not mean that it is a mistake to 'demonize' the leader. The leader is critical. For example, by contrast, if people want to do great things (like create programs to help workers and the poor or to build highways and schools), you have to have a leader that can make it actually happen. A leader can play on the best part of people's character or on the people's worst part. Leaders really do deserve a lot of the credit.

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maadmike October 6 2016, 03:03:19 UTC
Don't you think that people could not only choose but and affect the leader after?
For example, Stalin was poisoned, Kennedy shot... Maybe Hitler didn't done so much if people were not so zealous in performing tasks?

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hardblue October 6 2016, 03:10:37 UTC
People tried to kill Hitler, too. The world just got unlucky in this.

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maadmike October 6 2016, 03:14:35 UTC
I've just wanted to mention it too. Yes, there were attempts but the love, fear, dedication, professionalism of his encirclement didn't let it happens...

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maadmike October 6 2016, 03:30:48 UTC
Followers of Hitler many people of Europe were really enthusiastic about their domination on our planets. Women had used bags made out of people's skin, men were using ashtrays made from skulls of victims, it was popular brand, it was a celebration. And after the feast is over is fear and despair to be punished for what they did, to get on the place of people their country has tortured. Germans have dreamed to be Gods with billions of slaves, they wanted to wipe off whole nations.
Don't you think part of American establishments feel something like it when they send troops to put on knees new country, new nation?

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hardblue October 6 2016, 03:34:05 UTC
I think it must be unfortunate to have to take in so much Russian news. We just hope Putin can forget about re-capturing Eastern Europe.

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maadmike October 6 2016, 04:00:38 UTC

))) No offence... Russia has gave to USA protectorate all these lands, so why should it be interested in taking they back. USA is using them on 100 persent, to mention Strauss-Kahn scandal with IMF and all the sanctions which don't have much to do a damage to USA as a matter of fact. So, re-capturing all of the eastern USA military bases? The nowadays war theory doesn't need vast lands and many people, don't you think but of course an economic factor, cold war but we have more potencial neighbours on the East now, thanks to you, to sell our fuel and food... so, I doubt it very much...
I don't think it is a part of nowadays agenda. But why are you afraid about it, what are you concretely benefiting from all these lands your country is controlling now? What do you think is USA is fighting in Syria, for democracy, for money, for pure happiness?

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maadmike October 6 2016, 04:39:32 UTC
BWT, I am cut off of all Russian news now cause my TV connection is broken and I don't hurry to repair it. I was constantly reading BBC, Euronews, new.com.au but it is boring to get an information which is ten percent true especially when it comes to the neighbouring Russia countries. Now I am watching Euronews and RT, reding news.com.au cause it is excellent in crimes, drugs, sex slavery and travel... but what its journalists are writing about Russia... is makes me laugh.
If you think that I had somewhere gone too far, just say where and I will take my words back?

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hardblue October 6 2016, 17:27:33 UTC
You are not as cut off from Russian news as you think. When you speak about international affairs, Putin's voice comes out of your mouth. I am not getting paid to teach you world affairs, as life is too short, and I have other interests. Maybe you should talk about such things with your Russian friends, and we can just talk about literature and philosophy. I don't need the headache.

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maadmike October 6 2016, 19:36:56 UTC
I was not going to study something new but to have a conversation. But if it gives you a headache then it is better to speak about the literature although it sometimes is about the world around...

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