On Bubbles. But not so much roses.

Feb 06, 2007 01:53

I'd do the lj cut thing, but I don't know how.


[00:47:37] superhappydud: I propose to bring up a new topic.
[00:47:40] superhappydud: Flowers.
[00:47:43] superhappydud: I choose to argue for.
[00:47:46] superhappydud: you may argue against
[00:48:23] Anu: But thats a depressing stance.
[00:48:39] superhappydud: That is true
[00:48:41] superhappydud: but I acted first.
[00:48:44] superhappydud: and you were too slow
[00:48:45] superhappydud: therefore
[00:49:03] superhappydud: uhh
[00:49:06] superhappydud: you were too slow. :p
[00:49:08] Anu: I say that we argue for or against a specific type of flower.
[00:49:09] Anu: Roses.
[00:49:11] superhappydud: for!
[00:49:13] Anu: You are for roses.
[00:49:15] superhappydud: oh
[00:49:15] Anu: I am against.
[00:49:17] superhappydud: that's no fun
[00:49:19] superhappydud: i want to be against
[00:49:19] Anu: that okay?
[00:49:24] superhappydud: because you wanted against
[00:49:25] superhappydud: wait
[00:49:26] superhappydud: unless you want for
[00:49:29] superhappydud: because you knew I'd do this
[00:49:32] superhappydud: and so you said I could have it
[00:49:34] superhappydud: because I called it
[00:49:37] Anu: Muhahahaha.
[00:49:37] superhappydud: so then I'd do this
[00:49:39] superhappydud: and
[00:49:40] superhappydud: NO
[00:49:42] superhappydud: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[00:49:45] Anu: ^_^
[00:49:46] superhappydud: chaaaaaarles nooooo
[00:49:55] superhappydud: GET OUTTA MY HAAAAAED CHAAAARLES
[00:50:08] Anu: *evil grin*
[00:50:14] Anu: Well then duckie. Choose.
[00:50:20] superhappydud: I choose a neutral stance.
[00:50:24] superhappydud: that flowers are good
[00:50:28] superhappydud: but should be irradicated anyway.
[00:50:35] superhappydud: you may choose that flowers are bad
[00:50:38] superhappydud: but a neccessary evil.
[00:51:04] Anu: No.
[00:51:20] Anu: I only want to argue about roses.
[00:52:22] superhappydud: fine
[00:52:27] superhappydud: then lets disagree to agree.
[00:52:32] superhappydud: what does that mean?
[00:53:07] Anu: That means that one of us wants to agree, but the other doesn't.
[00:53:16] superhappydud: Exactly.
[00:53:18] superhappydud: wait
[00:53:18] superhappydud: NO
[00:53:23] superhappydud: augh.
[00:53:26] superhappydud: hm.
[00:53:27] superhappydud: okay
[00:53:30] superhappydud: lets change topics.
[00:53:34] Anu: Okay.
[00:53:36] superhappydud: no
[00:53:36] Anu: bubbles.
[00:53:39] superhappydud: i want to argue about flowers
[00:53:44] superhappydud: what about bubble roses?
[00:53:48] Anu: No, I agreed and chose a new topic.
[00:53:48] superhappydud: i can deal with that
[00:53:52] superhappydud: no matter what response.
[00:53:56] superhappydud: okay fine
[00:53:56] superhappydud: bubbles
[00:53:57] Anu: you can't just back up on your word like that.
[00:53:59] superhappydud: what are you?
[00:54:01] superhappydud: for or against?
[00:54:05] Anu: Do bubble roses exsist?
[00:54:10] superhappydud: does it matter?
[00:54:12] Anu: *exist
[00:54:14] Anu: No.
[00:54:20] Anu: But, I would be for bubbles.
[00:54:24] superhappydud: okay
[00:54:27] superhappydud: then I suppose I am against bubbles.
[00:54:37] superhappydud: Who shall begin this argument?
[00:54:56] Anu: Bubbles are good for the human soul, and playing with them should be encouraged.
[00:55:17] Anu: There is something inherently fascinating about bubbles.
[00:55:25] superhappydud: Inherently fascinating...
[00:55:26] superhappydud: and evil.
[00:55:30] superhappydud: You see
[00:55:33] superhappydud: each time a bubble is created
[00:55:47] superhappydud: it must, in compliance with the Doctrine of Bubblitia, pop.
[00:55:49] superhappydud: and when it pops
[00:56:07] superhappydud: it unleashes a small amount of soap, roughly equal to the surface area of the bubble.
[00:56:25] superhappydud: this soap could land on a beautiful butterfly
[00:56:31] superhappydud: which the courts cannot deny, is a beautiful creature
[00:56:34] superhappydud: and wet the wings
[00:56:37] superhappydud: disturb the antenni
[00:56:44] superhappydud: and lead it to its premature death.
[00:56:50] superhappydud: What say you now, you killer of butterflies.
[00:56:57] Anu: However, what if its premature death is beneficial?
[00:57:06] Anu: What if, it lands on an old land mine?
[00:57:17] Anu: and detonates is and destroys a whole village?
[00:57:18] superhappydud: I swear. If you invoke the butterfly causes a hurricaine rule..
[00:57:30] superhappydud: ...
[00:57:34] superhappydud: i fail to see how that is beneficial to anyone
[00:57:39] superhappydud: but perhaps a sadist
[00:57:40] Anu: In that case, destroying the butterfly would be better for the earth.
[00:57:43] superhappydud: are you a sadist?
[00:57:50] superhappydud: you're saying
[00:57:54] Anu: Are you saying that you'd rather save a butterfly instead of a whole village?!?!
[00:57:56] superhappydud: that if you poison this wonderful creature
[00:58:03] Anu: DO I UNDERSTAND YOU CORRECTLY?!?!
[00:58:04] superhappydud: and it lands on a landmine, because it needs to rest, and eventually die
[00:58:09] superhappydud: then it destroys a village
[00:58:14] superhappydud: it would be better than not poisoning the butterfly
[00:58:20] superhappydud: which would allow it to float on past the landmine
[00:58:29] superhappydud: giving those villagers another precious day of their precious lives
[00:58:38] Anu: Ah, but this butterfly could have landed on the landmine anyways!
[00:58:52] superhappydud: now you are arguing in the realm of ifs and maybes
[00:59:09] Anu: Or perhaps, that butterfly DID cause a hurricane! That then wiped out said village.
[00:59:25] superhappydud: Okay
[00:59:28] superhappydud: so lets make an analogy.
[00:59:36] superhappydud: You're saying that if you had the choice to kill a girl
[00:59:54] superhappydud: who would grow up and give birth to the man who accidentally creates a biological weapon that kills thousands
[00:59:58] superhappydud: you would kill that little girl?
[01:00:00] superhappydud: of but seven years old?
[01:01:52] Anu: No, I would travel in time to stop the man from creating his biological weapon.
[01:02:05] superhappydud: Impossible. You have only one chance, one choice.
[01:02:09] Anu: You see, I have a time traveling machine, but i want to keep it a secret....so...hush.
[01:02:12] superhappydud: To kill the innocent child, or not.
[01:02:18] Anu: I refuse to make a choice.
[01:02:26] superhappydud: Then you choose to cause the death of thousands.
[01:02:34] superhappydud: Which is the right choice.
[01:02:38] superhappydud: You see
[01:02:41] Anu: If anything, I would just alter her life so she wouldn't have sex with that particular man.
[01:02:43] superhappydud: by not killing the innocent girl
[01:02:45] Anu: CONDOMS.
[01:02:46] superhappydud: you are doing the right thing.
[01:02:53] superhappydud: just as by not killing the innocent butterfly
[01:02:56] superhappydud: you are doing the right thing
[01:02:58] Anu: CONDOMS WILL SAVE THE WORLD.
[01:03:04] superhappydud: Therefore, bubbles are evil.
[01:03:14] Anu: but, if you use your analogy.
[01:03:30] Anu: nope, nevermind.
[01:03:43] superhappydud: :D
[01:03:48] superhappydud: It is because my logic is infallible.
[01:03:56] superhappydud: there are no flaws you can exploit.
[01:04:01] Anu: Your logic is false, and that is all there is to it.
[01:04:03] superhappydud: You must admit: bubbles are evil.
[01:04:12] Anu: So the delight in seeing the shifting colors is evil?
[01:04:14] superhappydud: Do you have logical proof?
[01:04:32] superhappydud: I am told LSD causes colours to shift.
[01:04:46] Anu: Blowing a spherical shape out of soap?
[01:04:59] superhappydud: making a mushroom shape with a bomb.
[01:05:04] Anu: Soap bubbles can help to solve complex mathematical problems of space, as they will always find the smallest surface area between points or edges.
[01:05:26] Anu: An evil thing would help expand our knowledge?
[01:05:34] Anu: are you saying that knowledge is evil too then?
[01:05:39] superhappydud: No.
[01:05:44] superhappydud: But one has to draw the line at morals.
[01:05:53] superhappydud: Human testing would help us gain knowledge
[01:05:55] superhappydud: but at what cost?
[01:06:05] superhappydud: Just as bubbles would help us gain knowledge, but I fear the cost is too great.
[01:07:04] Anu: The cost of a little bit of dish soap?
[01:07:12] superhappydud: You know what they say.
[01:07:22] Anu: Please, give me the bill, I would be all too happy to pay it.
[01:07:36] superhappydud: A little bit of soap here, a few chemicals there, and suddenly you have the next biological weapon being unleashed upon millions of innocent Kurds in Iraq.
[01:07:59] Anu: If people are playing with someone dangerous, yes, they must take the nessesary precautions (namely, not getting soap in ones eyes, which is painful)
[01:08:11] Anu: But we cannot test on humans because it is unethical.
[01:08:25] Anu: Bubbles are not thinking entities. They are merely a children's plaything.
[01:08:57] superhappydud: Oh
[01:09:04] Anu: We have scientists playing with radon and radiation and carcinogens, which are much more dangerous than soap.
[01:09:17] Anu: Soap is cleansing, and used to clean dirty dishes.
[01:09:20] superhappydud: So you desire to teach our children that just because our playthings have no sentient thoughts of feelings, we can do what we wish with them?

[01:09:24] Anu: If anything, it would make the world cleaner.
[01:09:29] superhappydud: Which totally teaches them what they need to learn about respect for property.
[01:09:50] superhappydud: I completly agree with you, now. We should let our children play with bubbles.
[01:09:54] superhappydud: Let them blow them up, pop them
[01:09:56] superhappydud: chase them around
[01:09:58] superhappydud: and then once they pop
[01:10:01] superhappydud: forget about them
[01:10:07] superhappydud: Then when they grow up
[01:10:18] superhappydud: they can play with other things, like cars, money, houses, boats.
[01:10:22] superhappydud: They can obtain them
[01:10:25] superhappydud: and then play with them for a while
[01:10:35] superhappydud: until the ex-child destroys it
[01:10:40] superhappydud: and then they abandon it where it lies.
[01:10:48] superhappydud: and go on with the next plaything.
[01:10:55] superhappydud: Excellent strategy, my dear Anu.
[01:10:59] superhappydud: You've solved the world's problems.
[01:11:16] superhappydud: (Game, set, and match.)
[01:13:06] Anu: Bubbles do not have the same properties as cars, money or houses or boats.
[01:13:14] Anu: It is not that easy to create bubbles.
[01:13:27] Anu: They must be nurtured, taken care of.
[01:13:32] Anu: You must be careful with them.
[01:13:34] superhappydud: and it's piddles and buttons to create a boat, a house, or a car?
[01:13:45] Anu: They will remind children that not everything lasts forever.
[01:13:52] Anu: The little seed in the paper cup, it will die.
[01:14:01] Anu: Bubbles too, have a life span, and they will die.
[01:14:05] superhappydud: And by doing such, they encourage children not to develop emotional attachments to anything
[01:14:10] superhappydud: Also.
[01:14:13] Anu: It is important for children to realize this.
[01:14:18] superhappydud: All bubbles are anatomically similar, correct?
[01:14:37] superhappydud: And you also do not deny that occasionally bubbles will come together, and join somewhat?
[01:14:38] Anu: Would you rather have your child be emotionally disturbed then, when the first thing close to them dies?
[01:14:42] superhappydud: Which begs the question...
[01:14:49] superhappydud: are bubbles secretly homosexuals?
[01:14:53] Anu: They need to understand that nothing lasts forever, or else they will suffer later.
[01:15:04] Anu: Do you have something against homosexuals?
[01:15:05] superhappydud: And do we want to expose our children to the disease of homosexuality in our very homes?
[01:15:11] superhappydud: (no, but for the sake of the argument.)
[01:15:15] Anu: excuse me? DISEASE?
[01:15:19] Anu: You ingrate of a pig?
[01:15:21] Anu: *!!
[01:15:37] Anu: Homosexuality is not a disease!! We must embrace our kin!
[01:15:59] superhappydud: Uh huh. Embrace.
[01:16:02] superhappydud: Is that what they call it these days?
[01:16:38] Anu: It is being proven more and more that homosexuality is genetic.
[01:16:48] Anu: So if your child was a homosexual, you would just throw them out?
[01:16:55] superhappydud: You're changing the subject.
[01:16:57] Anu: Even though YOU would be responsible for it?
[01:16:59] superhappydud: Back to the subject of bubbles.
[01:17:07] Anu: You are the one who started on homosexuals.
[01:17:09] superhappydud: I demand we return!
[01:17:23] Anu: Bubbles, like I said, are not easy to make.
[01:17:38] Anu: If someone tries to make them in the wrong conditions, they will be met with failure.
[01:18:01] Anu: It is a learning process, and children will learn how to be careful, and to chose situations wisely.
[01:18:05] superhappydud: And little kids often are the most common makers of bubbles
[01:18:15] superhappydud: So since smaller children often to not have a grasp of these conditions
[01:18:20] superhappydud: they fail repeatedly
[01:18:31] superhappydud: and then become jealous of older children as they make bubbles with ease
[01:18:46] superhappydud: this early onset of jealousy and bitterness could become a standard for life
[01:19:07] superhappydud: eventually leading them into a lifestyle of drugs, alcohol, or even premaritial sexual relationships!
[01:20:42] Anu: There are many things that would make a child bitter and jealous.
[01:21:06] Anu: You cannot hinge such a thing on bubbles along.
[01:21:08] Anu: *alone
[01:21:56] superhappydud: So you wish to ban all things that can harm a child?
[01:22:02] superhappydud: Is that what you propose.
[01:22:03] superhappydud: ?
[01:22:37] Anu: No, I say that we cannot shelter children un-necessarily.
[01:22:42] superhappydud: ah
[01:22:44] superhappydud: but where is the line?
[01:22:44] Anu: Real life hurts. They will have to feel sometime.
[01:22:58] Anu: Do we shelter them all their life?
[01:23:02] Anu: Until puberty?
[01:23:10] Anu: Children are very perceptive.
[01:23:34] Anu: Being over protective, even at a young age, could do more harm than good.
[01:24:18] superhappydud: I agree whole heartedly
[01:24:26] superhappydud: but I believe bubbles are the line.
[01:24:35] superhappydud: and i have several prominent public figures that agree with me
[01:24:56] Anu: I say false.
[01:25:07] Anu: I think that you paid them off.
[01:25:14] Anu: I know that is a common tactic of yours.
[01:25:15] superhappydud: Martin Luther King once said, "I have a bubble.. and this bubble is hurting.. aching.. paining all african americans, blacks, and brutha's from the hood. Bubbles must be outlawed"
[01:25:26] Anu: I, however, would never stoop so low,
[01:25:27] Anu: *.
[01:25:33] superhappydud: Lincon: "Four score and seven years ago... bubbles assulted this nation."
[01:25:48] superhappydud: The Green Powerpuff Girl: "Bubbles! You are wrong."
[01:25:52] superhappydud: you see
[01:26:00] superhappydud: science, ethics, logic, and famous people all agree with me.
[01:26:12] Anu: You, sir, are rewriting history for your own means!!
[01:26:16] Anu: you therefore lose.
[01:26:25] superhappydud: you have naught but your outdated morals and harsh, yet ultimately unfounded, accusations.
[01:26:36] superhappydud: Guards!
[01:26:37] superhappydud: Take her away.
[01:26:47] Anu: Counter Guards!
[01:26:52] Anu: Protect Me!
[01:27:07] superhappydud: No such counter guards exist. Not since the Proclaimation of Counter-Counter Guards back in 96
[01:27:17] Anu: *sneaks away through a secret panel in the door*
[01:27:23] superhappydud: They were all wiped out back in 'Nam.
[01:27:30] superhappydud: the 'Nam of 96...
[01:27:45] Anu: *but not before stealing your coveted throat brooch*
[01:28:05] superhappydud: I think this argument has degenerated enough to proclaim a winner.
[01:28:11] superhappydud: I'm pretty sure I beat you out on every point.
[01:28:15] superhappydud: I was on the offensive in every instance.
[01:28:23] superhappydud: You changed topics in order to prevent total annihilation.
[01:28:35] superhappydud: I claim victory, in both the moral and in the victorial sense.
[01:28:48] Anu: I say no dice.
[01:28:54] superhappydud: indeed
[01:28:56] superhappydud: dice implies chance.
[01:28:58] superhappydud: this was all skill.

OR DO I!?!?!?
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