I would like out of this time machine, please.

[happiestsadist]

It's kind of interesting to think about how far back we've really gone when it comes to sex within the last few years. I mean, I remember that condoms weren't this weird taboo thing, and the idea of women fucking because they want to was actually like relatively common. Like Salt-n-Pepa songs. And Left Eye from TLC with her condom eyepatch.It

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[ms_daisy_cutter]

The mainstream media has been pushing this retrograde view of sexuality and gender for most of the last decade. As the religious right has gained political ground, their hacks in the media have felt freer and freer to say what they really think about women's rights. Consider Ross DoucheHat's NYT column suggesting seriously that young fertile women be compelled to make babies for infertile couples; and Rod Dreher's Deep Thots that while clerical abuse of boys just isn't on, the FLDS is okay because girlz iz for breedin' and they might as well get to it toot sweet.

Cat Marnell's column, to me, mainly stinks of the trope of Unbalanced Woman Exhibits Her Dysfunction To World For Their Titillation And Disapproval. There are two main flavors: The Unhappy Single "Girl" (also see Lori Gottlieb, or any number of unattached 20-something women in Manhattan who've written this kind of piece), or The SAHM Going Slowly Crazy (Ayelet Waldman etc.). It's an old trope, dating back to at least True Confessions, probably earlier.

Camille Paglia revived her grossly undeserved career for a while on Salon. I don't know if they run her swill anymore; I haven't seen it or heard about it lately.

The last decade has been absolutely toxic to feminism. But I've been seeing notions such as "privilege" and "mansplaining" pushing into non-feminist and even non-liberal spaces more and more. Plus even some acknowledgment in the MSM - Mad Men does not romanticize the pre-feminist era at all, and it's a huge hit; meanwhile, Pan Am is following in Mad Men's footsteps in more than just aesthetic.

I am hoping for an explosive and furious Fourth Wave, and soon.

[happiestsadist]

I'm really hoping for a Fourth Wave soon. Because this shit is scary.

[ms_daisy_cutter]

I wonder if it's going to happen the same way the Second did - hippie men like this one pissing off OWS women into radicalizing?

"Pretty faces were making signs, giving speeches, organizing crowds, handing out food, singing, dancing, debating, hugging and marching." Amazing how the language never changes. It's a very thin veneer of "I love women, I love their beautiful bodies and faces, women are my favorite things in the world" over a massif of "Shut up and get on your back, bitch, that's all you're good for," and being attuned to it makes you into a "misandrist" because HDU interfere with the sacred male prerogative of ogling T&A.

Greatest Generation patriarchs, Baby Boomer d00dz, Gen-X neckbeards, millennial douchebros... same shit, different era.

[happiestsadist]

Well put. Because as far as a lot of the male left goes, I am reminded of what the official position of women in the SNCC was

[ms_daisy_cutter]

I don't expect any non-feminist "progressive" space to not have its head up its ass in some manner. I do try to raise the expectations, but I don't count on it happening.

(Though to be fair, there's also white feminist fail. A whole other story.)

[ginasketch]

"I love women, I love their beautiful bodies and faces, women are my favorite things in the world" over a massif of "Shut up and get on your back, bitch, that's all you're good for,"
God I HATE that shit.
Why are men so fucking afraid of interacting with women as equals? They have to reduce us to childlike objects.

[ms_daisy_cutter]

Privilege is a hard thing to give up....

[kankurette]

A lot of women don't help by treating men as some kind of weird separate species. As Notes On A Scandal pointed out, women who go on and on about 'lol stoopit menz aren't they silly lol menz lol' are the ones who need men the most. Case in point: women's magazines. Mocking men one minute, telling their readers how to please him in bed, what outfits to wear to get him into bed, and how to be skinny so loads of men will want to fuck you, the next. Matriarchy, my pubes.

[kankurette]

It's kind of funny to hear conservatives whine about how the media is so liberal. Hollywood, the music industry and the mainstream press are pretty damn conservative.

[ms_daisy_cutter]

"The media is so liberal" = "The media doesn't push my tinfoil hat conspiracies about the New World Order, the Cult of Valerie Solanas, and black people pushing white people off the sidewalk for revenge."

[happiestsadist]

Yeah, that book really opened my eyes too. Depressingly, but still a fascinating read.

[ms_daisy_cutter]

Did you pick up the newest edition with the new introduction, in which Faludi notes how much worse it is today than in the '80s? I haven't read that new intro yet.