Reading and (mosty) watching roundup: The Expanse (finally), Owl House, What If...
I've been slacking on my reading lately, partly because said reading wasn't gripping me, partly because I've been watching TV and scrolling Yuletide-related posts instead, but I did finish one (1) book, and should post about the other media consumptions stuff, too, so :P
42. James S.A. Corey, Leviathan Wakes (The Expanse book 1) -- Huh. I've been ( Read more... )
42. James S.A. Corey, Leviathan Wakes (The Expanse book 1) -- Huh. I've been ( Read more... )
Hahaha, that's a great way to put it XD But, yeah, good point -- it makes for a very constrained arc when you start with the heir...
"For the millionth time, I'm NOT Catwoman!"...
Hehe, I wonder if they're allowed to do it by copyright... I mean, Tony used to make references to all kinds of things, but I don't remember if there are all things that Disney now owns, or if referencing a rival comic book franchise is a different thing than referencing general pop culture.
I was trying to figure out where I'd heard Killmonger was returning -- looks like it must have been this. I haven't seen any additional confirmation since, so it could all be a bunch of BS. But I'm definitely hoping! (and I do think it makes sense to bring him back with Chadwick Boseman sadly gone from the series...)
Wut? Pfff... MCU!Hank was way too pragmatic for such useless idiocy. He seems more a "success is best revenge" kinda guy.
Yeah, I found that one difficult to buy, but I guess the point of the What Ifs is that the characters aren't necessarily the same people we know from the "real" MCU timeline... And based on what I've osmosed about comics!Hank, Pym might be someone who was unstable enough to "slide off" in all kinds of weird directions, including this stupid revenge one...?
Coulson's password XD
#SteveSteveSteveIheartSteve0704 :DDD
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Him scratching his head after a longer not using it, "Uh... how many Steves that was again?"
Speaking of all things currently Disney... CLICK ;)
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Hehe. But a nice strong password overall -- long, capital letters and numbers, generally nicely done.
Speaking of all things currently Disney... C
Hee! A compelling argument! :D
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Not sure if they can make a DC reference, but they could use any number of Marvel's own catwomen--Tigra, Hellcat, White Tiger, etc--as a quick tease for MCU-only fans and comic book reference for the comic book fans.
...I guess the point of the What Ifs is that the characters aren't necessarily the same people we know from the "real" MCU timeline...
Heh, as a comic book fan, the entire MCU is a What If. I mean a large ongoing one rather than the more typical one-shot stories, but What Ifs are all about AUs and the MCU is AU from the Prime (or "real") comic book timeline. One of the ways the MCU doing a What If series of its own is cool to me is that it presents AUs of an AU. The comics sometimes get that far out from the Prime timeline, but it only happens occasionally with the larger more popular canon AUs of the comics. From some of the reactions I've seen to some of the MCU What If episodes, I think some MCU-only fans have been missing that for all the Watcher's talk about the differences coming from a single point, each What If... timeline is different before the moment the episode starts. They aren't the MCU Prime timeline any more than they're the comic books Prime timeline. Each timeline is its own timeline.
And based on what I've osmosed about comics!Hank, Pym might be someone who was unstable enough to "slide off" in all kinds of weird directions, including this stupid revenge one...?
Oooh yeah. Like I've said elsewhere in this comment section, "I loved Hank Pym being that insane because to me it's the closest any part of the MCU has come to portraying Hank Pym as being capable of being that homicidally batshit insane."
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Heh, as a comic book fan, the entire MCU is a What If.
Very fair! :)
each What If... timeline is different before the moment the episode starts. They aren't the MCU Prime timeline any more than they're the comic books Prime timeline. Each timeline is its own timeline.
That's how I've been seeing it -- we're tapping into selected timelines, they may be different for various reasons. I think Loki primes you to see it that way, because some pretty divergent ones get implied with that show -- I mean, alligator!Loki? that's not a single point of divergence, I have to assume.
Although I guess the What If... into itself does kind of suggest the single-point-of-divergence thing, along with the titles of the earlier episodes.
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Yeah, and I stopped with an "etc" because there are more I can think of just off of the top of my head. Two more would be Cat's Eye and Feral. I mean depending on whether they really wanted to make it a running gag, and an exercise in catching comic book references, they could have her throw out a different cat(-adjacent)-Marvel comic book woman each time.
Very fair! :)
Thanks! Like various canon and fan AU's, I've read/watched over the years it has things I really like about it and things that don't work so well for me.
That's how I've been seeing it -- we're tapping into selected timelines, they may be different for various reasons.
Glad that's how you've been seeing it! I mean I know some of the differences are subtle enough I've had to watch an episode more than once, but some of the ones where I thought the timeline being an independent one was obvious haven't been clear to some MCU-only fans. I mean someone was all bent out of shape by Loki's behavior in the one where Hank kills off a bunch of the Avengers, but I thought it was obvious that Loki was already under Thanos' control rather than acting on his own.
I think Loki primes you to see it that way, because some pretty divergent ones get implied with that show -- I mean, alligator!Loki? that's not a single point of divergence, I have to assume.
Oooh yeah, they did a fine job of making clear that alligator!Loki's timeline was more than a single point of divergence. It wasn't just that he was an alligator, which would be a divergence by itself, but that they said he got pruned for eating the wrong neighbor's cat. He wasn't even pruned for being an alligator.
Although I guess the What If... into itself does kind of suggest the single-point-of-divergence thing, along with the titles of the earlier episodes.
Yeah, I wonder about how much of it is that poor framing in the show itself, and how much of it is MCU-only fans watching it without having watched Loki first. I imagine there are fans that skipped the live-action show because they figured it was just about the title character, and failed to appreciate what he'd be doing in his show. No matter what What If... as a title and some of the episode titles may suggest the show isn't about single-point-of-divergence. The timeline being different before Peggy becomes Captain Carter is in the first episode, even if it took me two viewings of that particular episode to get it. Bucky is "off" in that episode because he's a blending of the MCU Bucky from TFA and comic book Bucky in a way that apparently landed him leadership of the Howling Commandos before there was a Captain Anyone for them to work with. He's already in his Howlie uniform when Captain Carter breaks into the facility they're being held in.
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