Virtual Worldcon/Hugo roundup, bits of reading roundup, and Good Omens

Aug 19, 2019 23:32

Semi-intentionally and semi-just-because, I ended up sort of de facto having a ( virtual Worldcon weekend )

hugo homework, television, good omens, a: catherynne valente, worldcon, a: charles stross

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shermarama August 20 2019, 09:10:09 UTC
I've got to say I gave up on Charles Stross, despite multiple recommendations from friends, because I couldn't get on with the Laundry books either. Not even because of Bob, who is a lot like a lot of people I know and like (who are computer science graduates of that generation) but because of how women are written, basically all the time. Even when the author's trying to make them a likeable, relatable co-protagonist, that just kind of shows up the holes more, to me... there seems to be a point beyond which he can't fathom women being people ( ... )

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hamsterwoman August 21 2019, 16:13:36 UTC
Even when the author's trying to make them a likeable, relatable co-protagonist, that just kind of shows up the holes more, to me...

*nod* This was my experience with the Merchant Princes book, which had a female protagonist/POV character, and she just didn't feel like a person.

but then it was there because of course when you've got characters with that length of backstory, already doing things like driving a car that's nearly a century old, some retro phone equipment fits right inYes! Every time the "obsolete" stuff showed up, my reaction was, "Oh, of course! that makes perfect sense! Good job figuring out how to keep that in". I do think it probably would not have worked with cassette tapes left in the car, so I was OK with the Queen songs becoming kind of an inside joke for the book fans -- L and I gave each other a delighted consiratorial look every time it came up ( ... )

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ikel89 August 20 2019, 10:07:07 UTC
Listen, the Space Opera bounce-off effect is so hard, I couldn't concentrate on the recap of interesting alien species or your favorite (even curated) quotes. By the end of the first quoted phrase my eye started twitching like a galactic seizure before a big bang that would result in innumerable adjectives, nouns and verbs that could - would - shouldn't - be repurposed into a new Catvalente book.

/mic drop

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hamsterwoman August 21 2019, 15:54:54 UTC
This is a beautiful comment, and I would like to nominate it for the Hugos in place of Space Opera.

<3

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lyssa027 August 20 2019, 12:20:39 UTC
I thought Tennant made a great Devil ;) and it helps that he's one of my favorite actors ever since he was in Doctor Who lol [and the 4th Harry Potter movie, which I didn't even realize til years after it came out]

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hamsterwoman August 21 2019, 15:55:39 UTC
[and the 4th Harry Potter movie, which I didn't even realize til years after it came out]

Oh right! I guess I did see David Tenant in something before XD I keep forgetting about Barty Crouch Jr XP

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perpetual August 20 2019, 15:52:46 UTC
As soon as A03 was nominated I knew it would win, just due to the way the Hugo voter landscape has changed over the years. It's kind of neat in a way.

I'm kind of glad I hadn't read Good Omens in 10+ years before watching the show. I mean, eventually I'll read it again just because it's a good book, but I like how the show is so much its own thing.

Neil Gaiman has been saying over and over that the show is centered on the love story between Crowley and Aziraphale, even though they're just friends in the book. I absolutely loved their dynamic and I support of the Ineffable Husbands ship, but I particularly like how it's left open to interpretation, what with them being genderless spiritual beings. Personally I see it as an asexual romance which has maybe had or will have some physical experimentation.

(and, conversely, could've done without the visual on the two of them sobering up XP)

That was gross.

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hamsterwoman August 21 2019, 16:07:21 UTC
just due to the way the Hugo voter landscape has changed over the years

There must've been more campaigning for it in places I didn't see, because I was surprised by the number of nominations and first place votes, even once I heard about the win and kind of justified it to myself as an easy "consensus" winner. I do find it neat, but I'm also sad that what I considered a really worthy nominee (Jo Walton's Hugo book) was overlooked -- and unlike AO3, a perpetual work in progress, a book is only eligible once.

I'm kind of glad I hadn't read Good Omens in 10+ years before watching the show

Yeah. I had planned to reread and then ran out of time, but I think it was the best call, ultimately. Watching, and L having just read it, made me want to reread the book even more (and I'm not normally a rereader), but maybe I'll hold off for a bit and let the show breathe.

Neil Gaiman has been saying over and over that the show is centered on the love story between Crowley and Aziraphale, even though they're just friends in the booOh, has he? ( ... )

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perpetual August 22 2019, 05:43:04 UTC
and unlike AO3, a perpetual work in progress, a book is only eligible once.

Oh gosh, that's a good point I hadn't considered. I know nothing about Jo Walton's book, but I guess this kind of thing is why I'm not a Hugo voter.

I didn't even know that Gaiman was on Tumblr until people started reblogging his comments. When he answers questions about his work he's pretty forthright, so it's neat to see an author actually talk about characters' sexuality instead of just "What do YOU *winkwink* think?"

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hamsterwoman August 22 2019, 06:42:54 UTC
Ooh, I actually didn't realize that Gaiman was on Tumblr either. I used to read his blog, back in the day, and always really enjoyed that -- and I guess that's where he's moved to now. I should go look up what he said directly, because I've only seen, like, interview quotes about Good Omens.

(Love the icon, btw!)

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meathiel August 20 2019, 16:35:19 UTC
I am really tempted to get Prime just so I can watch Good Omens ...

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hamsterwoman August 21 2019, 15:57:01 UTC
I'm not sure how it works outside the US, but here at least (I think) you can get a free trial of Prime -- a month, I believe, so more than enough time to watch a mini-series :)

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meathiel August 21 2019, 16:10:37 UTC
Yeah - you can get that here as well.
Maybe I'll get it when I return from my holiday.
I'm busy watching "Mindhunter" on Netflix atm!

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hamsterwoman August 22 2019, 00:52:28 UTC
Lots of folks on my flist seem to be binging Mindhunter at the moment!

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