Killjoys + Snowflake Challenge, days 2-5

Jan 05, 2017 15:50

An assortment of fannish things!

1) fandom_stocking extended its deadline to Wed, 1/11. I am usually impatient to see all the goodies revealed, but this year I'm greatly relieved, because between the stockings going up pretty late, crazy work, holiday, and feeling sick, I haven't actually managed to do anything yet, beyond browse and take notes, ( Read more... )

fic rec, plan to read, snowflake challenge, firefly, killjoys, rivers of london, dresden files

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cyanshadow January 7 2017, 05:38:43 UTC
And the tropes were VERY eye-opening to 10-year-old me, haha.

I can imagine. :D :D (I'm pretty sure 10-year-old me would have loved them too :D)

WALL-E was basically the very same shape, just cutified a bit further in the animated way.

Huh, I'm not sure I'd ever made that connection, but you're right! According to Wikipedia, it sounds like it probably wasn't an intentional homage (the creator apparently hadn't noticed the similarities until they were pointed out to him), but I like it as an unintentional homage anyway. :)

E.T. or Neverending Story or Willow.

Haha, to be fair, I grew up on a steady diet of PBS and musicals mostly, so I'm not sure I'd be able to say what the "staples of a geek childhood" are either. :D (Trying to remember if there were any sci fi movies we watched repeatedly other than Star Wars, Spaceballs, Short Circuit, The Cat From Outer Space, and I can't think of any ...)

I unfortunately didn't see Neverending Story until after I'd read the book, which meant that I was Deeply Unimpressed By Everything. :D (I really enjoyed the book, though!)

My understanding is that it contains the kind of absolutely terrible person character that I tend to fall for, so, we'll see...

Pfft, if he's who I'm thinking of, he was actually one of the parts of the book I liked relatively better.

everybody I know was lukewarm on Sword compared to the rest, and so I haven't made the effort required to track it down...

I actually think I liked Sword a bit better than Justice, tbh. But I do seem to be in the minority with that opinion.

I think the problem is that it's a different "kind" of story - more focused, told within a smaller space, if that makes sense?

There's also no new "trick" in the second book like she-as-neutral-pronoun was in the first book, which I guess some people might also see as making it less, hm ... groundbreaking?

But IMO it's still a solid book and I still really enjoyed it. :)

So it's one of those series I recommend without it necessarily being "mine".

Makes sense - it's on my list as one of those "enough of my friends like this that I feel like I should give it a try". :D

a book I really hated (Tigana)

Haha, I've been a bit afraid to go back and re-read that one, because I vaguely recall liking it at the time, but I think I stumbled across your commentary at one point and agreed with most of what you had to say, which makes it seem ... doubtful that I'd like it on re-read. XD

I've read a couple other things by him (Sailing to Sarantium and The Summer Tree? I think?) and liked them, but he's one of those authors that seems to slide out of my brain almost as soon as I finish the book, which typically makes me slower to pick up their additional books. XD

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hamsterwoman January 8 2017, 02:59:31 UTC
Huh, interesting, I didn't know that the WALL-E appearance thing was not an intentional homage.

Maybe I would've actually enjoyed reading Neverending Story if I had met it before the movie, but the movie was so WTF-y to me, I never tried to pick up the book.

I think the problem is that it's a different "kind" of story - more focused, told within a smaller space, if that makes sense?

It does, and I think you're probably right. The characters in Justice weren't what hooked me, it was the worldbuilding and the pronoun gimmick that actually worked, and I expect Sword, as you describe it, probably won't hook me as much. But I definitely want to continue with the series.

Tigana is one of those books that some people really love and others... really don't. But I could also see it being a book that one could like when younger and outgrow -- it's kind of Return of the King played mostly straight, and I just don't have patience for that anymore.

Sailing to Sarantium was I think the first GGK book I ever read, so my memories of it are positive and numinous, but probably artificially so, if you know what I mean. And as for The Summer Tree and the rest of the Fionavar books, ahaha. I really, really loved Diarmuid, and liked a few other characters, but on the whole it's just such a weird book! Like, I want to pat GGK on the head because it is perfectly natural to be so overwhelmed by Tolkien's writing that you want to grow up to be Just Like Him, but on the other hand, he did so much better when he branched out and did his historical fantasy instead. And there's random Arthuriana, which, like, why?

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cyanshadow January 8 2017, 07:41:21 UTC
the movie was so WTF-y to me, I never tried to pick up the book

Well, no guarantees, but my child self at least really liked it. XD And IIRC it did a better job of explaining things / having a logical progress of events than the movie did (and a better ending, too), though IIRC it was still somewhat surreal.

it was the worldbuilding and the pronoun gimmick that actually worked

Yeah, somewhat the same here - I enjoyed the characters, but none of them really became mine.

The pronoun gimmick definitely continues to be a thing, it's just not new anymore. And IMO, she continues worldbuilding in interesting ways, just on a smaller scale.

Anyway, either way I look forward to hearing what you think of it. :)

my memories of it are positive and numinous, but probably artificially so, if you know what I mean.

Ahahaha, yeah. There's a reason there are some authors that I just ... don't re-read. XD

Like, I want to pat GGK on the head because it is perfectly natural to be so overwhelmed by Tolkien's writing that you want to grow up to be Just Like Him,

pfffft. :D You know, it hadn't occurred to me to make that connection (probably due to my much weaker connection to LotR :D), but ... I could see it.

But, I mean, who wouldn't want to be a character in a portal fantasy to an LotR/Arthuriana mashup???? :D

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hamsterwoman January 9 2017, 19:37:59 UTC
The pronoun gimmick definitely continues to be a thing, it's just not new anymore.

Yeah, that's what I meant, too.

As far as GGK, the connection to Tolkien's writing is actually more explicit -- as a young man, he helped Christopher Tolkien edit The Silmarillion. His first book was published quite a bit later (according to Wiki, he started working on The Sil in 1974, Sil's publication date is 1977, and GGK's first book came out in 1984) -- but I'm pretty sure there was a Tolkien overdose involved :P

But, I mean, who wouldn't want to be a character in a portal fantasy to an LotR/Arthuriana mashup???? :D

It's kind of adorable, because he is clearly cramming in ALL his favorite fantasy things, whether they make any sense together or not. I've been there, Guy Gavriel Kay! I feel you, buddy!

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