December ramble meme, day 2: Raven Cycle poems (WHY?!)

Dec 02, 2015 17:50

Oh my god, so ikel89 CHALLENGED me to write a Gansey poem, throwing out the following ideas: "I want a Gansey poem :D :D :D Make it as ironic as you want: Gansey writing a sonnet to Dead Welsh King boyfriend, or idk, a set of haikus where all cast members sing odes to Gansey (I'm especially looking forward to Ronans XD), or anything, really ( Read more... )

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i can't believe your last tag is a thing that exists XD ikel89 December 3 2015, 07:59:55 UTC
YOU ARE CLEARLY THE BEST THAT'S WHAT YOU ARE :D :D :D
I would totally say that the poems are the best ronan boys fic out there, but then again, there is the priceless commentary to the poems, и боже мой, все такое вкусное :D (now, try telling me I don't have the best ideas?)

Of course this turned into everybody writing poems about Gansey.
Of course. It's not like the book isn't the same thing, except in purple prose :D

This limerick also has no punchline, which feels apt.
XD XD I think this is my favourite comment of yours re:Gansey's piece, but I was also thinking that limerick would probably be his form for himself, because self-deprecation and ha ha funny and he really really doesn't want to be a real-life sestina :D (also, pffft anticlimacting ending. i'm sure it's some A+ premonition for book 4)

Decoupe is SUCH A NEAT IDEA for Blue, and she would totally actually cut the stuff out on paper and arrange it in a hipster collage.

When it came to Adam, I clearly lost my fucking mind. Like, you guys, you think the glyoxylate sonnet for trick-or-treat was hard?
I'll have you know I laughed nonstop at Adam's section and I think by the time I got to "t ended up being a lot more about Adam than about Gansey, but that's kind of Adam's whole deal with Gansey, really." I was practically sliding off my chair XDD Родина не забудет твоего подвига, because boyyyy is needlessly tortured out of its blooody miiind :DDD This is clearly триумф формы над содержанием (if only for the sheer amount of work that went into this one!) but the imagery/motives are also very Adam-like: UNKNOWABLE forest stuff, crying over rags and riches, and the shiny glamor of perennial Aglionby swank. Oh Adam. Oh you self-immersed Gansey fanboy. *shakes head, laughs*

Noah's poem was unexpectedly touching (that sincere childish tone) and somewhat eerie: the repetetiveness makes it look like a magic rhyme/chant *gooosebumps*

And HaikUSS ARE FUCKING LAAAME oh god XDD Does Ronan even know how much in common he has with Kavinsky (I'm not saying it's necessarily a good thing, you know XD)

PS. you're just as sane as I am, Anechka :DD

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Re: i can't believe your last tag is a thing that exists XD hamsterwoman December 3 2015, 16:00:37 UTC
Your reaction to these is very, very gratifying! :DD

It's not like the book isn't the same thing, except in purple prose :D

You have a point, haha!

I was also thinking that limerick would probably be his form for himself, because self-deprecation and ha ha funny

Oh, very neat to hear! The limerick came first, but it's been my default form for fannish doggerel for a while now (it's short, and the name thing in the first line usually just hands you a hook -- it's good at providing its own prompt, basically), but it does feel like a very fitting form for Gansey on himself.

she would totally actually cut the stuff out on paper and arrange it in a hipster collage

She would! :D (I think you need a longer poem for decoupe to really work, but I couldn't see Blue reaching for, IDK, "Rime of the Ancient Mariner", or keeping at it long enough. But after I'd carefully avoided including any of the instances of "love" in the sonnet, there really weren't that many words left to choose from :P

the repetetiveness makes it look like a magic rhyme/chant

You're right! I'd never put it for myself that way, but that's what triolets do, and they all sound quite eerie. It's a different effect from a vilanelle -- they're too short to get boring, or too tortuous, but it's a kind of unsettling vibe.

Родина не забудет твоего подвига

*salutes* I, in turn, surprised you read the whole thing, considering it was Adam POV and a sestina -- god, I was so tired of that poem by the time I got to the end.

триумф формы над содержанием

Yes, this is why I hate sestinas. Like, no matter how profound the six words you choose, unless you're going for something comedic, there is just no way you will still have something interesting to say after 4-5-6 stanzae of repeatng them. It all just starts to sound like that "Chicken chicken? Chicken! Chicken chicken." powerpoint presentation after a while.

but the imagery/motives are also very Adam-like: UNKNOWABLE forest stuff, crying over rags and riches, and the shiny glamor of perennial Aglionby swank

I'm glad all this worked for you! Some of it just sort of came out on its own (the roots and branches), some was definitely deliberate (like picking "soil" as one of the words -- Adam thinks of dirt a whole lot in the books -- and Aglionby as another), but overall I did think it had achieved a kind of Adam-y feel.

Hopefully nothing will ever possess me to attempt a sestina again! But I can't imagine that anything else would've driven me to try it, so this was a neat, character-building exercise :D

Does Ronan even know how much in common he has with Kavinsky

For the record, the Ronan haiku was the second thing I wrote, and so it already existed by the time I read your Kavinsky poem. So this is really a case of great deranged minds think alike :D

PS. you're just as sane as I am, Anechka :DD

That is reassuring! XD

(I was sensing a trend, and felt I needed a tag to help me find such madness later. And also to avoid having to use "this is all K's fault" in my post titles instead XD *goes back to tag Captive Prince write-up* :P)

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Re: i can't believe your last tag is a thing that exists XD ikel89 December 3 2015, 19:17:40 UTC
I am to please! And sponsor the best ideas, of fucking course *preens*

Btw, tomorrow evening we have a get-together в широком составе at my house (including Danya and Z, and I'm doing not nastilniki or whatever they were called XD блинчики, в общем!), and I must remember to flaunt my Kavinksy T-shirt XD

But after I'd carefully avoided including any of the instances of "love" in the sonnet, there really weren't that many words left to choose from :P
Also agree that she wouldn't do anything as trite as including the L-word in her poem, yus :D

I, in turn, surprised you read the whole thing, considering it was Adam POV and a sestina
My commitment in Adam is about on the same level as pacing in Blue Ronan, Ronan Blue, but I clearly know how to be impressed with literary effort, so I read it, yes XD But I'm laughing hysterically at "It all just starts to sound like that "Chicken chicken? Chicken! Chicken chicken." powerpoint presentation after a while. " - what is that even?

Adam thinks of dirt a whole lot in the books
Your commitment to Adam is also... commendable XD

But I can't imagine that anything else would've driven me to try it, so this was a neat, character-building exercise :D
Hey, you shouldn't get too comfortable XD Who knows, maybe next I'll prompt you to write an epistolary exchange between Laurent and Damen, except in verse (and Laurent's poetry would be bitchy and in-your-face structured, I bet :D:D :D) And all the Greek hexameter for Damen god, I'm getting indigestion just imagining it XD

For the record, the Ronan haiku was the second thing I wrote, and so it already existed by the time I read your Kavinsky poem. So this is really a case of great deranged minds think alike :D
Which also proves my point about their compatibility drift-compatibility :P

And also to avoid having to use "this is all K's fault" in my post titles instead XD *goes back to tag Captive Prince write-up* :P
Good thing my fictional boyfriend is not in the habit of reading your lj, otherwise he'd have a rather screwed view of my personality if he ever browsed that tag! Phew, marital prospects saved! XD

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Re: i can't believe your last tag is a thing that exists XD hamsterwoman December 4 2015, 05:49:02 UTC
and I'm doing not nastilniki or whatever they were called XD блинчики, в общем!)

Haha, I'm glad I've managed to at least confuse your terminology XD

You should totally wear your Kavinsky shirt -- ideally while making said !nalistniki, as a further scene from the Kavinsky domesticity AU. :D

Blue Ronan, Ronan Blue

*snerk*

And: Chicken chicken chicken

and Laurent's poetry would be bitchy and in-your-face structured, I bet :D:D :D) And all the Greek hexameter for Damen

Oh god, not hexameter, I don't think I can do hexameter... (but you're right, that's of course what Akielon poetry would be) Laurent, oh, he would have super-formal bitchy poems, very precise. I also think maybe... I don't think there's actually a formal name for this, or if there is, I don't know it, but poems that lead you to expect one rhyme and then substitute for it by varying the rhyme scheme from the expected. I actually know it from dirty Russian verses, you know:

Тореадор попал в беду
Кармен схватил он за... мантилью
"О боже мой," вскричал Эмилио,
"Я выход что-то не найду"

So, kind of like that, but classy.

Good thing my fictional boyfriend is not in the habit of reading your lj

The secret of your bad influence is safe within the f-lock! :D

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Re: i can't believe your last tag is a thing that exists XD ikel89 December 4 2015, 07:45:47 UTC
Reporting that I wore the Kavinsky t-shirt and everything is going according to plan, haha :D Domesticity AU take 2, here I come hahah (it looks I think even more IC K-sky with the shorter and more asymmetric hair, spunkier).

Thanks for the ppt link, I'll watch it as soon as I'm back on home computer ;) #work ethics #what

Кармен схватил он за... мантилью
brb laughing FOREVER, this is such an excellent idea for Laurent, and it needs to be more sophisticated and imply the crudest rhymes and he'd read them out lout in the crispest, cleanest way and Damen would be like, "my precious snaketongue buttercup is so incredible and funny #melts right onto his hexameter papyrus" XDD

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Re: i can't believe your last tag is a thing that exists XD hamsterwoman December 4 2015, 08:10:42 UTC
I meant to say that you should say hi from me to everyone and give them my love, but have missed the opportunity. Myslenno s vami, koroche, wearing leather band bracelets and raven chick plushie.

it needs to be more sophisticated and imply the crudest rhymes and he'd read them out lout in the crispest, cleanest way and Damen would be like, "my precious snaketongue buttercup is so incredible and funny #melts right onto his hexameter papyrus" XDD

Just like that, yes XD

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Re: i can't believe your last tag is a thing that exists XD ikel89 December 4 2015, 08:12:30 UTC
You haven't, actually - it's Friday morning now, and we're meeting Friday evening, so, all good :) Will deliver the good wishes and greetings and all!

Just like that my fucking foot XD Now I want the Laurent poems. WHY INDEED #adult life choices

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Re: i can't believe your last tag is a thing that exists XD hamsterwoman December 4 2015, 08:16:26 UTC
Ahhhh, OK! Good! Timezones are confusing XP

The problem with Laurent is that, unlike all these other bozos, he'd actually be GOOD at poetry. That is MUCH harder to do, unfortunately!

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Re: i can't believe your last tag is a thing that exists XD ikel89 December 4 2015, 08:19:10 UTC
And unlike these other bozos, I think you're not too shabby yourself, so I'm utterly confident that if you ever attempt Laurent-bitchery in verse, it will be perfectly funny :D

And to lump the two threads together - no, I don't think it has anything to do with Yule, the automated queue has been around forever now, and there is no reason why people would be rushing to have an AO3 accounting after the sign-ups are long over:)

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Re: i can't believe your last tag is a thing that exists XD hamsterwoman December 4 2015, 21:33:59 UTC
Aww, your faith in my poetic abilities is touching :) I will rest on my sestina laurels for now, though (I almost wrote that as "sestina Laurents" XD)

I seem to remember hearing about the automated queue, but I was surprised at the number of people in it O.o

I hope your !nalistniki get-together was lovely, and that everybody appreciated your Kavinsky shirt to the proper degree :D

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Re: i can't believe your last tag is a thing that exists XD ikel89 December 6 2015, 15:35:06 UTC
sestina laurents, yes please:))

did the queue get back to you?

thank you! the get-together was quite warm and boisterous, though I mostly remember seeing the frying pan myself, and at least A appreciated the K-ness of the t-shirt :> i am pretty tired at this point though - four days in a row i'm having early wake-ups and late bed hours, meeting and seeing people off the trains, and my kzn girls stayed over the weekend, and z is leaving monday morning 5 am for her two completely z months in italy, and all i want is to fall asleep facedown in a cup of tea and think about yule assignment... my social batteries are not what they used to be a few years ago, haha %_%

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Re: i can't believe your last tag is a thing that exists XD hamsterwoman December 7 2015, 05:30:25 UTC
I am now an account-holding member of AO3! (now I just need to figure out how to upload stuff there, and what HTML works vs doesn't work)

though I mostly remember seeing the frying pan myself,

Aww! :( But hopefully enough of people, also.

It does sound like a very hectic time! ♥ ♥ ♥

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Re: i can't believe your last tag is a thing that exists XD ikel89 December 7 2015, 08:30:10 UTC
congratulations!:) link me to this geniusness as soon as you're done, i'll disperse the knowledge among my tumblr folks :D

re:html, I find the most hassle-free option this - type as you do in Word file, with all the formatting done, then copy-past it into rich text editor of ao3 page, and then save as draft - preview. In 99% of cases, that doesn't require any further tweaking, because all paragraph breaks and symbols copy accurately, but then again, I haven't posted poems:)

(i'm quite dead haha as expected -_- but thank you for your sympathy)

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Re: i can't believe your last tag is a thing that exists XD hamsterwoman December 7 2015, 08:57:17 UTC
type as you do in Word file, with all the formatting done, then copy-past it into rich text editor of ao3 page, and then save as draft

Oh, neat! I didn't realize that would work -- that does sound pretty easy!

(One can't do colors on AO3, can one? I'm trying to figure out how I can mark Gansey's edits of Ronan's masterpiece... Just italics, I suppose, since I won't have to italicize the poems when they're the only things there... (I think I'm still going to keep some of my musings on forms in the endnotes. Though probably tone down my feelings about sestinas, haha.)

And, will do!

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Re: i can't believe your last tag is a thing that exists XD ikel89 December 7 2015, 08:59:09 UTC
I don't think I've seen colors, and I usually go for italics myself, or brackets in a new paragraph.

You should totally keep the endnotes, yes yes! :D Would be a shame to lose them!

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Re: i can't believe your last tag is a thing that exists XD hamsterwoman December 8 2015, 02:20:59 UTC
Ta-da! Still all your fault, for the record.

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