50. Lois McMaster Bujold, The Vor Game -- it's been 5 or 6 years since I've read a Miles book, and dammit, I've missed the crazy little guy. ( A little spoilery )
just a temporary young men thing maybe, which leaves them even closer when they're older. That doesn't sound impossible.
I think Miles needs the person he is in a relationship with to outrank him, for optimal chemistry. Yeah, he definitely needs someone who doesn't... give in to his strength of personality, one way or another. I adore Ekaterin. Well, I have a crush on her :) she definitely feels more real than a lot of Miles' love interest. Which is a big part of her appeal. I think you're right on the Oedipal thing... and I think it's good that Eklaterin is strong but in an entirely different way from Cordelia. At the same time take Cordelia and Ekaterin, and it feels they are both somewhat related to Harriet Vanes, taking on different personnality trait.
You mean you repeat that when talking to yourself? ;) ... yes >_>;
I feel the need to go get me a Galeni icon. Possibly with that "Nobody appointed you god" quote... You could ask curtana, she makes glorious quote icons and has made vorkosigan ones before (like this one).
she definitely feels more real than a lot of Miles' love interest. Which is a big part of her appeal.
Yes, I definitely agree with that. She is a lot more multi-dimensional. I think it helps that she has family (the aunt and uncle), and a past (first marriage and Nikki), and hobbies and interests that are entirely independent of Miles -- things that neither Elli nor Taura seemed to have. And she is very capable in her own right, but, as you said, so different from Cordelia that she doesn't pale by comparison.
I think that maybe I don't find Ekaterin as interesting partly *because* she is really pretty realistic. So many characters in Vorkosiverse are larger than life, for various reasons, starting with Miles (heh), and Cordelia and Aral and Illyan and Alys in her own inimitable way. But I have a feeling I would really like her as a person.
Dark secret: I have not read any Sayers, so while I know *of* Harriet Vane, I don't actually know anything about what she's like.
And, yep, curtana was definitely going to be my first stop. I think I may have even seen the icon I want, I just didn't have the Galeni love to go with it back then. :)
Well, yes.
just a temporary young men thing maybe, which leaves them even closer when they're older.
That doesn't sound impossible.
I think Miles needs the person he is in a relationship with to outrank him, for optimal chemistry.
Yeah, he definitely needs someone who doesn't... give in to his strength of personality, one way or another.
I adore Ekaterin. Well, I have a crush on her :) she definitely feels more real than a lot of Miles' love interest. Which is a big part of her appeal.
I think you're right on the Oedipal thing... and I think it's good that Eklaterin is strong but in an entirely different way from Cordelia. At the same time take Cordelia and Ekaterin, and it feels they are both somewhat related to Harriet Vanes, taking on different personnality trait.
You mean you repeat that when talking to yourself? ;)
... yes >_>;
I feel the need to go get me a Galeni icon. Possibly with that "Nobody appointed you god" quote...
You could ask curtana, she makes glorious quote icons and has made vorkosigan ones before (like this one).
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Yes, I definitely agree with that. She is a lot more multi-dimensional. I think it helps that she has family (the aunt and uncle), and a past (first marriage and Nikki), and hobbies and interests that are entirely independent of Miles -- things that neither Elli nor Taura seemed to have. And she is very capable in her own right, but, as you said, so different from Cordelia that she doesn't pale by comparison.
I think that maybe I don't find Ekaterin as interesting partly *because* she is really pretty realistic. So many characters in Vorkosiverse are larger than life, for various reasons, starting with Miles (heh), and Cordelia and Aral and Illyan and Alys in her own inimitable way. But I have a feeling I would really like her as a person.
Dark secret: I have not read any Sayers, so while I know *of* Harriet Vane, I don't actually know anything about what she's like.
And, yep, curtana was definitely going to be my first stop. I think I may have even seen the icon I want, I just didn't have the Galeni love to go with it back then. :)
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