Blowsy Irish Drunks

May 13, 2004 21:05



BRUCE VILLANCH: It’s a political reaction, not an artistic one. Like when Colleen Dewhurst said Olivier could no longer play Othello. I asked her if that meant she could only play big, blowsy Irish drunks.
NATHAN LANE: Did she deck you?
BV: No, but now I can never make a play for Campbell Scott.The Life in 3 Parts crew decided, after nearly 7 ( Read more... )

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utilitygeek May 14 2004, 07:20:40 UTC
Actually, I'm not sure I don't agree with the Joni Mitchell objector. Not because they're right, per se, but because I probably would have made the assumption that it's not a CD that's the iconic representation of the relationship, it's a Joni Mitchell CD, if you see the difference.

Of course, to me, Joni Mitchell is reminicent of being annoyed by the constant stream of folk music on long trips with Kira, so maybe I'm biased. :-)

The point is that I might have wondered "what the author meant" by referencing Joni Mitchell. Maybe it should be a Hues Corproation record: Rock the Boat on a 78. :-)

As far as the rest goes...

You have my personal authorization to write about straight middle-class white guys. 'Cause boy, am I straight, white, and middle-classed. Well, technically, I'm poor. But we'll pretend so I don't get down about it. Sorry I can't do anything about gay black men from Yugoslavia or anything.

If a character is a charactiture or an archetype, they're probably not going to react like a character with more depth. That doesn't mean that they aren't (or at least can't be) interesting. The wild success of Friends seems adaquate proof. Mr. Motivation should get over it.

Someday, we'll have to talk about the differences between writing gay and lesbian couples vs. straight couples. I'm oblivious enough not to know what the big difference is.

Finally, if 2 out of 5 actors only had compliments and constructive criticism to offer, I think you're doing pretty well. That's a tough audience, and (quite frankly) you're beating the living crap out of the Prime Time Neilsons. :-)

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half_double May 15 2004, 16:51:12 UTC
Ah, but note that you say you associate Joni Mitchell with Kira. Kira is many things, but a lesbian is not one of them. Unless there's something about her that I don't know. Or unless there's something about you that I don't know....

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utilitygeek May 17 2004, 06:38:43 UTC
My point was not so much that I associate Joni Mitchell with lesbianism, so much as I don't associate Joni Mitchell with relationships or love so much as long car trips, and fearing the Ritalin wearing off. To an observer only partially informed, questions of "why Joni Mitchell" pop up.

Also, there are many things you don't know about me. A vagina is not one of them.

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