Thoughts on Politics

Jun 13, 2008 01:11

So I'm still a Ron Paul supporter.  Yes, he has no possible way to win the presidency.  Yes, some of his ideas are extreme.  Yes, many of his supporters are crazy people.  But government is not the answer to problems; it simply causes more.  He realizes that, he states it honestly, and he proposes viable alternatives.  He has written at least 8 ( Read more... )

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samwise122 June 13 2008, 07:23:13 UTC
Okay well if I typed everything I had to say in response to that it would be an essay. Let it just be known that it is very refreshing to see someone looking at the candidates so honestly and without (much) bias. (But who isn't biased?)

I will have a hard time choosing in November.

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hadji_hajek June 13 2008, 17:12:57 UTC
I'd like to hear what you have to say :)
Maybe on just a point or two?

I'm glad you have not come to a decision yet, either, though. It -is- a tough choice.

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hadji_hajek June 13 2008, 17:10:00 UTC
Yes, foreign policy is definitely Obama's strong point, and I'll gladly concede that to him. Non-intervention is something I feel almost morally obligated to promote, considering the messes we cause all over the world (but to be fair, we do a fair amount of good as well). With that being said, I'm not sure where I stand on the Iraq issue, although I agree with you on Iran. I posted my views on Iraq to ryokou_robo below this.

Truthfully, charisma means a lot. Swaying voters by means of appealing to them through skillful speaking is ages-old. Obama masterfully taps into our desire for change and promises just that, and I believe he has a lot to back that up. And while I respect you for not being caught up in his rhetoric, and I'm in the same boat as you, it's obvious that some people are just caught up in the euphoria of the moment. Is it because he makes fantastic points, and proves that he can be a leader that brings our nation and the world together? Or is it because they can't think for themselves? That I can't answer.

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ryokou_robo June 13 2008, 15:30:16 UTC
I don’t like John McCain mainly because of his thoughts on war. We can’t afford to have more and more countries to be hateful towards us. McCain wants to increase the number soldiers in Iraq; but where are you going to get these people? This war is not widely supported by the American people; I doubt you’ll have lines of willing young men to go over there and put their lives in great danger over a war they don’t believe in. Added on to that, he doesn’t want to create diplomatic relations with Iran (whereas Obama does) or North Korea, but instead he wants to equip forces that would overthrow the current governments (whereas Obama wants to make sure they don’t have access to nuclear weapons). #1- We can’t just “fix” everyone’s problems… and as we have seen in Iraq, we can’t just do it with brute force. #2- Again, where are we going to get the people for this? So many American’s have died already and if you have a country that’s losing faith, it’s just a downward spiral. America has been built up as this indestructible country, but we ( ... )

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hadji_hajek June 13 2008, 16:56:30 UTC
First of all, I worded the marriage amendment wrong. They are both against a constitutional amendment that would define marriage as between a man and woman ( ... )

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ryokou_robo June 13 2008, 18:17:38 UTC
I would much rather have Ron Paul running for the Republican side than McCain. I would not mind so much who wins then, although I still might vote for Obama... I would have to research it more ( ... )

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ltnoin June 13 2008, 16:58:11 UTC
Obama rejected the same-sex marriage amendment. good
So did John McCain. also good

Oh?

I think I like Obama, but I'm kind of uninformed sometimes. I worry I will be an irresponsible voter.

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chutotoro June 13 2008, 20:45:34 UTC
Sometimes I worry that a smaller government may cause problems because of a lessening of control and regulation.

Under president Bush the FDA was downsized and there was a direct increase in unsafe food and disease outbreaks in crops.

I think McCain really is one of the best Republican candidates we could've hoped for, but I'm still leaning towards Obama. Still, I admit I need to do more research about both of them.

I love that they both want to shut down Guantanamo, but I start preferring Obama when I think more globally. Other nations are looking forward to a new face for America and I think he's what we need. With a Kenyan father and time spent growing up in Hawaii and Indonesia, I think he might have a more international and multicultural outlook on life and that's definitely something I think our new president needs. McCain's pro-military leanings make me uncomfortable, and I think someone unconventional and charismatic could help us greatly in the diplomatic world.

But as I said, I'm still not done learning about both of

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eldamorie June 14 2008, 20:01:47 UTC
But government is not the answer to problems; it simply causes more.

I'd say "hallelujah," but I don't think it'd be appropriate given the context. That being said, it's McCain's perspectives on immigration that bother me. But Obama voting pro-English language . . . that bothers me too.

By the way, there's a guy who drops off libertarian papers for a friend of mine at work - and they were calling for an english-only ammendment. How is more legislation libertarian in the slightest?

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